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    • MLB's list of top 100
  • 3/4/12
this list really isnt for anything. probably just best 100 overall for all things considered, past performance, last years performance, best to build a team around, how they should do this year blah blah blah. i dont think its supposed to be a serious list, just MLB network giving its fans some fun filler to pass the time until spring training starts
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  • 3/4/12
He is, and about where he belongs because of his down year in 2010 imo.
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  • 3/4/12

Pablo's at 44 I think. He's on there.

But yeah, I agree that Nate isn't worthy of being on that list...

yet?

By the way, if you weren't the one bumping up the "sick kid" thread I apologize. There's about 5 new handles on this board each day and I saw the all-caps and thought it was you. If it wasn't...my bad.

Whoever it was, it was beyond inappropriate.

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The hint there CenCoast was my reference to the trolls buzzing like bees.

They seem to all been driven bat scat crazy by anything remotely positive about Nate,
let alone him being on a top 100 list.

And look it worked!

But you should have known better IMO.

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  • 3/4/12

Haha.

Yeah I guess I bit that hook, line and sinker.

And I'm far from a Nate hater for what it's worth. I think he's poised to have a great year.

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  • 3/7/12

Bum is a bit lower than I think he should be. As is Tim, but let them fly low on a stupid poll and impress later.

Definitely do not see Kemp as #1 in all of baseball. I'm not really sure who I would pick, Verlander comes close enough. I could make the case for Pujols, just not sure. Too subjective.

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  • 3/7/12
Kemp at no.1 .......... tells you all you need to know about this "list".
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  • 3/7/12

Up and down the list the rank placements are questionable. My main issue is with this.

17. Jacoby Ellsbury – CF – Boston Red Sox
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16. Adrian Beltre – 3B – Texas Rangers
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15. Joey Votto – 1B – Cincinnati Reds
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14. Adrian Gonzalez – 1B – Boston Red Sox
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13. Jered Weaver – SP - Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
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12. Dustin Pedroia – 2B – Boston Red Sox

I personally would put both Cliff Lee and Lincecum over anybody in that rank. Maybe A-Gone would be the exception. Pedroia and Ellsbury are great players but often a product of the East Coast Media over selling them.

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  • 3/7/12
Here's how I see it. Dustin Pedroia is an awesome ball player. But I don't think there is more than one GM in all of baseball who would trade a year of Matt Cain (#46) for a year of Dustin Pedroia (#12). Therefor that list is a failure.
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  • 3/7/12
Napoli is better than McCann?
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  • 3/7/12

Avila better than,

54. Carlos Gonzalez – OF – Colorado Rockies
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53. David Ortiz – DH – Boston Red Sox
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52. Derek Jeter – SS – New York Yankees
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51. Lance Berkman – 1B – St. Louis Cardinals
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50. Jon Lester – SP – Boston Red Sox
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49. Ian Kennedy – SP – Arizona Diamondbacks
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48. Miguel Montero – C – Arizona Diamondbacks
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47. Brian McCann – C – Atlanta Braves
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46. Matt Cain – SP – San Francisco Giants
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45. James Shields – SP – Tampa Bay Rays
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44. Pablo Sandoval – 3B – San Francisco Giants
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43. Matt Holliday – LF – St. Louis Cardinals
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42. Andrew McCutchen – CF – Pittsburgh Pirates
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41. Giancarlo “Mike” Stanton – RF – Miami Marlins
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40. Brandon Phillips – 2B – Cincinnati Reds

??????????????

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  • 3/7/12

Yea, I agree, I mentioned Timmy and Lee because they were placed right behind that list. Up and down that list, it's subjected to criticism. I don't know if they are basing their ranks from last season, two seasons, or how back they are taking performance into consideration.

20. Felix Hernandez – SP – Seattle Mariners
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19. Tim Lincecum – SP – San Francisco Giants
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18. Cliff Lee – SP – Philadelphia Phillies

17. Jacoby Ellsbury – CF – Boston Red Sox
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16. Adrian Beltre – 3B – Texas Rangers
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15. Joey Votto – 1B – Cincinnati Reds
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14. Adrian Gonzalez – 1B – Boston Red Sox
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13. Jered Weaver – SP - Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
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12. Dustin Pedroia – 2B – Boston Red Sox


Edited 3/7/12   by  Curia1981
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  • 3/7/12

Take a look at what Jared Weaver has done over the past few years:

<http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/weaveje02.shtml

He's crazy good. Not better than Lincecum, but crazy good. Of course, he may be benefiting from diminished competition, like Lincecum and Kershaw abusing NL West lineups. But still, he's gotta be up there.

Basically, if you look at that list, it's kind of a rank of who had the best years last year. Lincecum is coming off a "down" year by his standards. Nothing to get too worked up over. I'd wager just about every GM in baseball would take Lincecum over Weaver right now, all things being equal on money and such.

-chef

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  • 3/7/12

I don't have an issue with Weaver being in the list and so much having that rank. Personally, I think his rank over Lee and Lincecum is a little generous. He is great pitcher who will rack up strong stats through out the season. In par I think he is a slightly better version than CJ Wilson. This rank thing is for amusement purpose. I know it doesn't mean much, yet it's fun breaking it down and analyzing it.

Me and my cousin in Brooklyn often break down pitchers. A while back we were talking about the Yankees and Giants rotation. In general we discussed Lincecum and Cain > CC and Pineda (He disagreed). CC is a stud but there is no intimidation factor to him. He will give you innings and in general he is a great pitcher. Pineda is a work in progress and it's yet to be determined. Putting all stats aside, Lincecum has an intimidating presence in the mound. The intimidating pitchers in the majors is good thread for conversation,lol. It's not so much about stats but intimidation. That's my point of view from where I personally placed Timmy and Lee over Weaver (not taking anything away from him).

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  • 3/8/12
Ah, I'll converse. Agree, actually. Sabathia is "solid", but he's got a year or two best before he totally tanks. I don't think he's got his command. He's not marquee as far as pitching. And he didn't do much for his team in the postseason.
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