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    • D'Arnaud
  • 2/24/13
  • jsmet


>No, going 0-3 in Spring Training...or 0-30 for that matter doesn't mean he will be a bust. However, having said that, I am very afraid he will be. Proclaiming him a bust after three AB's is no dumber than proclaiming him a star before he had any AB's. We'll just have to wait and see, but the history of prospects...plus the fact he's damaged goods, makes it a good bet he's not going to be nearly as good as a lot here think...or as we all hope. <

Where did proven players come from didn't they start out as prospects ?

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  • 2/24/13
  • MetObserver
How many players have o'fers in their first ST game?
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  • 2/24/13
  • Gepett0

the history of prospects ? really?

every single player in history is a prospect....and the fact is, name the catching prospects that were as highly regarded as tda and known to be able to stay behind the plate (thus excluding montero or myers, both still excellent prospects)...for the sake of argument we will use as parameters catchers who could stay at catcher that were considered top 20 prospects

we'll also exclude mesoraco, who was rated one spot higher than tda last year but would have been overtaken by tda this season had he not lost prospect status...plus hes still too young to say anything definitive about and has alot of potential

but the list would include

Buster Posey
Carlos Santana
matt wieters
J Salty
Mauer
victor martinez

so basically we are talking about 4 of the best catchers in the game over the past 10 years, then 2 guys who are considered better than average catchers...and not a single bust

so going by THAT history, you'd have to suggest that hes got about a 70% chance of being great and nearly 100% chance of being good...you know...using ACTUAL history and all

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  • 2/24/13
  • DFAB
that calculation might be accurate in Toronto, but now that he is a Met...he's already a bust
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  • 2/24/13
  • GoMets6986

"that calculation might be accurate in Toronto, but now that he is a Met...he's already a bust"

+1

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  • 2/24/13
  • Melo15nym
So what's your point?
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  • 2/24/13
  • TheChosen1
CYndergaard is gonna be the prize of that trade.
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  • 2/24/13
  • Melo15nym

"CYndergaard is gonna be the prize of that trade."

If he can get his curve ball to be a plus pitch, yes he will.

BTW, the Port St. Lucie rotation is going to be fun to watch with Syndergaard, Fulmer and Tapia.

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  • 2/24/13
  • jsmet

So what's your point?

There is no point.

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  • 2/24/13
  • Melo15nym
There was no point of making a thread to post this? Ok
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  • 2/24/13
  • marvelousmarvin
Satin had two doubles today. I guess he will be a stud.
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  • 2/24/13
  • Gepett0

its just funny bc i know he will have some reason why those dont actually count...

but yeah, i feel like ba dropped him out of the top 20 this year (only list where he went backwards) simply bc he became a met

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  • 2/25/13
  • MetObserver
Now you go and spoil everything for me. I thought they were born in cabbage patches like the great pumpkin. Have to rethink everything now.
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  • 2/25/13
  • brianinwi
Good, so when the Mets send him to AAA, it will be for sound baseball and prospect development reasons, rather than just saving a year of eligibility.
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  • 2/25/13
  • MetObserver
I believe that the eligibility remains the same just that he could reach arbitration a year earlier and get 4 years of it instead of only three.
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  • 2/25/13
  • brianinwi
You're right, my bad.
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  • 2/25/13
  • Gepett0

thats not true

there are two different dates

after 20 games, you preserve an extra year of team control

after a bit longer than that (no real way of knowing bc it depends on the rest of the league) you keep them from super 2 status

if you start him day one, you actually lose a full year of team control

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  • 2/25/13
  • MetObserver
If you start him on day one how many years of control do you have? Six?
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