Santana was a trade. What does Crawford and Lackey have to do with the Mets? Why not mention Tex or CC Since you mentioned a trade mentioning AGone would be deemed more appropriate...

Wheeler has been OK up until tonight. If you think Familia and Harvey have been pitching well You're obviously the idiot...

and what are you evaluating? Short term and immediate results? That isn't how development works. There is a lot of other things going on and things they are learning to do that may take them out of there comfort zone.

Stop making excuses. That's this organizations problem. When things arent going well they have an excuse prepped. When things should go a different way they have an excuse prepped. Call it like it is...

Oddly enough, it's Omar's holdovers Harvey and Familia who are currently struggling. Wheeler has looked pretty good.

And the pitching the current regime brought in during the draft last year is doing very well, especially the college guys who could move pretty quickly through the system: Mazzoni, Verrett, Leathersich and Panteliodis.

Free agency is a tough game to play, and there are a lot of misses. It's just not a balanced way to build a team. And with more and more teams locking up younger players this year (McCutchen in Pittsburgh, Gio Gonzalez in DC, Cain and Bumgarner in SF, Votto and Phillips in Cincy, Kendrick and soon Aybar w/ the LAA, a handful of Royals and Indians, and even a guy like Niese, etc.), fewer players will be hitting free agency in their primes. It's going to be less of a viable option.

"If you think Familia and Harvey have been pitching well You're obviously the idiot..."

I never said they were pitching well, but i'm also not going to cry about in April like you. You do realize struggling in the minors is not a bad thing. It makes the player learn and make adjustments. No one never struggles in their career. Problem is if it never happens till the majors sometimes the player is not equipped to know how to handle it. The whole point of the minors is to learn. Harvey's AA debut was similar to what he is experiencing in AAA. He learned from it and made adjustments and finished extremely strong. Obviously there is no guarantee the same will happen at AAA but it would no shock me.

You do realize that minor league results at times are like ST and are not to be used as a predictor of the future. The results are not the important thing, how they pitched is much more important. Because in the minors pitchers are told to work on certain parts of their game. And many times while throwing the same pitch time after time in order to get it right the batter has a chance to time the pitch and get a hit. Whereas in a real game the pitcher would be mixing those pitches much better.

Not saying that this is the reason for the poor starts but often can be a contributing factor.

Ha....Colon actually pitched last night and threw 38 strikes in a row. I've never seen anyone do that.

>> You do realize that minor league results at times are like ST and are not to be used as a predictor of the future. The results are not the important thing, how they pitched is much more important. Because in the minors pitchers are told to work on certain parts of their game. And many times while throwing the same pitch time after time in order to get it right the batter has a chance to time the pitch and get a hit. Whereas in a real game the pitcher would be mixing those pitches much better.

You never know what they have any kid in the minors working on. It time for them to learn. It's time for them to turn a weakness into a strength. It's what development is all about. That's why minor league stats can be misleading. Last season Harvey had one horrible start in which they had him throw 90% change ups. Even minor league hitters aren't stupid. The only way you improve a pitch is by throwing it, and there's no better place to do that than in a game. What's he going to say if one of these kids make the majors and struggles. They need to learn to pitch in the majors. He doesn't have any idea of what development of a player is all about.

It's only the top 2 pitching prospects that are struggling - Harvey and Familia. They both took a while to adapt to AA last year, and then improved. They are both struggling this year in AAA, but its only been a few starts.

It's not the best sign, but it doesn't necessarily mean anything in the long term. They're velocity is still high and their offspeed pitches are still great. They need to throw more strikes, and they should.

The Mets farm system is unbelievably packed with future major league arms. This is how you build a ball club in 2012. You can't do it through free agency anymore. You just can't.

All they need to do is use our high draft picks to draft high ceiling offensive talent this year and they will be fully on the path to success.

The whole has been dug. There's nothing we can do about it. But they are WELL on their way to getting out of said hole. It just doesn't happen overnight. It's hard to be patient.

saw a replay of it last night on mlb network... he turned back the clock and just pounded away
at the zone.