**********other old timer abreu must leave the team ***************
sure, lets get rid of the ONLY guy that HAS hit a hr in the month of june
How do we really know that this management is "truly committed to winning?"
Only time will answer this question.
When Rivera was on the DL(and Loney still not hitting), it would have been the perfect time to let Sands or SVS play 1st base everyday-let them sink or swim and see if they can help. Now that Rivera's back, it makes it harder to give up his bat and replace it with a rookie.I think Donnie really blew it on this one-he had a chance to give one of these guys an honest trial and p_ssed it away.
I think Donnie didnt believe it would keep us a float in the division if they played...Koreman
Corey, sometimes ya gotta have a little hutzpa and gamble-especially when what you're doing is failing so miserably. How much worse could either of these guys have done compared to what we got? I don't think the bottom could have dropped out much lower. And we still don't know if either of these guys is a real major leaguer. It's very frustrating to think you may have the answer in your own back yard, and you don't have the brains or guts to even find out.
I have to disagree. I think Donnie saw they both needed time to 'learn while you earn'. They had their moments but they didn't exactly tear it up. SVS prove to be a liability at 1st and Sands is no gazelle in the OF. They either have to come back ready to do heavy lifting or they need to come up when we can afford to let them make a few mistakes. One project at a time. Especially in the infield when we are trying to hold on to 1st. We held on to it. I think that deserves some respect.
We are still on top. Even if we slip we should be in the hunt. We need to look for ways to get better now, not start looking for scapegoats.
"They had their moments but they didn't exactly tear it up. SVS prove to be a liability at 1st and Sands is no gazelle in the OF."
The problem with them was their hitting. Since, neither made an error when indeed they played.
I suggest the readers of this thread take the time to examine the O'malley years... (Walter or Peter). These guys knew how to win... Winning has to be learned just like any other discipline. In the 60's and 70's we we're constantly a threat to make the playoffs. But it didn't end there... We usually had the necessary talent to go the entire distance. As much as I and several of you complain about the Dodger bats and the Dodger this and the Dodger that... IT'S ALL ABOUT THE PITCHING!
Put an average team on the field, along with a few dominating pitchers and you've got a winning team. Ask Atlanta... Better yet... Ask Peter O'Malley!
There is a lot more to defense then errors. Sands doesn't have much range and miss played some fly balls even though he was not charge with errors. Van Slyke benefited from VERY generous scoring. He had balls that bounced right off his glove at 1st base.
But your are right the main problem was their hitting. Again I say, if Van Slyke is ready now bring him up.
"There is a lot more to defense then errors. Sands doesn't have much range and miss played some fly balls even though he was not charge with errors. Van Slyke benefited from VERY generous scoring. He had balls that bounced right off his glove at 1st base."
I'm aware that there is more to defense than errors but errors are a huge part of how a player is perceived. I think that for all the grief that they are given or that has been rumored or written they don't seem that bad defensively. I would agree that they are not gold glovers but not as bad as they have been made out to be. Honestly, I didn't see any of the above that you mention even when I saw them at the stadium. Well, we'll disagree on this.
"But your are right the main problem was their hitting. Again I say, if Van Slyke is ready now bring him up."
I think that if they bring him up they have to play him and not just sit him on the bench or just use him as a pinch hitter. Then we'll know what he has as a player. He won a game for us with a HR against the Cards earlier in the year. I think that he is worth giving a shot to because we lack power and guys like Kennedy, Loney, Uribe, Herrera, and Gwynn won't provide it.