"I've actually been shocked at how little race has been mentioned in this case

It would have been all about race had Zimmerman been white and the same
thing happened, but now it is a gun issue.....and this law....
I feel Zimmerman was in the wrong, but Trayvon should not have called his
girl friend, he should have called the police....

My eyes rolled to the back of my head when you said "jesse jackson". Again, not discounting the racial element but you remember what I said and look at this again in six months to a year, the anti gun lobby is gonna make this about them and the second amendment.

I feel Zimmerman was in the wrong, but Trayvon should not have called his
girl friend, he should have called the police....
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Good point, he probably didn't feel as threatened as he should have. From the way things sound so far though, I don't think a gun had been pulled at that point.

I understood that he told his girl friend that he was being followed
and that he was scared.....so many lessons to be learned from this
very sad out come....

It's 2:30 in the morning and you're getting the heck beat out of you by one of the Beautiful People? What time of night was it by the way?

I'm just glad that Mr. Zimmerman had the unfortunate results to take a few punches from the perp and yell for help before he filled him full of holes.

If you aren't a racist, and you hear Sharpton speak, ....you are in danger of becoming one.

In this instance though, we know who the shooter was, where he is & know the circumstance.

<39 People were shot in Chicago over the last few weeks>

Good lord that's insane.

Last few weeks? That happened over ONE WEEKEND. That's the Democratic voting block for you.

Did a white guy shoot this kid? That's what the MSM is making it out to sound like since this guy looks "white". Nevermind the fact that he is hispanic.

I'm still waiting for Obama to tell the South Side of Chicago to do some soul searching since they've got no problem shooting themselves year round. I guess if blacks shoot themselves, it's fine, but as soon as a black is shot by a "non-black", it's a news story. I see the New Black Panther Party is mobilizing. I wonder how Bucky is directing his local chapter during these times.

I've read that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman from behind. Apparently an eye witness saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman wailing on him.

Personally I think people need to wait for the facts to come out before passing judgement and making it a race issue. Also, Trayvon wasn't this clean cut all american boy the media has made him out to be, showing his picture when he was 14 instead of his more recent pictures.

An arrest without a case definately means nothing. Not sure in Florida, but in Illinois.....

Once an offender is ARRESTED, you only have a certain number of hours to charge or release-usually 72 hours max. However, if the suspect comes in to be INTERVIEWED, which Zimmerman was, there is no time limit.

If the suspect gives an alibi, the police MUST break it, and that takes time. one way it can be done through locating witnesses, and having them come in to be intereviewed.

Evidence that was collected has to be worked up before any charges. That can take days, weeks or yes, even months.

THEN a State's Attorney (or District Attorney in C.S.I. speak) is brought in to review the case. It is the State's Attorney who then approves or rejects the charge for murder, not the arresting officer.

Once a person is arrested for murder, the suspect must go before a judge the following day for a bond hearing where the facts are presented to the judge. If there are still cracks in the investigation, the judge can release the suspect right then and there, so naturally the state wants the strongest case possible BEFORE that happens.

Everyone needs to take a deep breath with this case. I say bring in some assistance for the investigating department in case they do not have much experience with homicides.

Zimmerman will be charged with something, it's going to just take time.

Everything you said was not only common knowledge, but it sounded like you're working in media relations for the Sanford PD. The arrest should have been made by the cops on the scene, don't take my word for it, ask a cop his opinion. Detain, arrest, arraign, bail, trial. This is standard procedure throughout the country; the Sanford PD is at best, bad at their jobs and at worst, corrupt.

A agree with what you say to a point.....the point being that Trayvon had
a cell phone, he could and should have used it to call the police, had he
done that, I think the it would have turned out different....but what is the
difference, OJ was not even charged when they got him out of the car,
this happens often.... I know of a bar room fight where it was three weeks
before the man was charged and than he served six years for manslaughter.
In fact, I feel that this was not murder but manslaughter.....

Sounds like you are leaning towards sympathy to the guy who threatened the Sanford police chief.
Not to worry, the crack team of Eric Holder legal race beagles is on the job.

Yes, Sharpton tends to do that.....they say a picture is worth a
thousand words.....look at the pictures of these two....
Trayvon looks like a sweet young man helping a old lady across
the street and Zimmerman looks like a hood.....they have
Zimmerman in his 2005 orange jump suit, and Trayvon in a picture
from a few years ago looking like the boy next door.... show these
to the jury, say nothing and Zimmerman goes down......

The plot thickens, as they say...

"The new Black Panther Party offered a bounty of $10,000 Saturday for the “capture” of a Florida neighborhood watch captain who killed unarmed teen Trayvon Martin.

“An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth,” leader Mikhail Muhammad said after announcing the reward for George Zimmerman at a protest in Sanford, Fla.

Muhammad called on 5,000 black men to mobilize and capture the neighborhood watch volunteer.

“If the government won’t do the job, we’ll do it,” Muhammad said, leading chants that included “freedom or death” and “justice for Trayvon.”

Muhammad said New Black Panther’s chairman, Malik Zulu Shabaz of Washington, was taking donations from black entertainers and athletes."

www.nydailynews.com/news/national/black-panther-rage-10g-capture-trayvon-killer-article-1.1050370

A Florida man was also charged Friday with threatening to kill Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee and his family.

OJ is a horrible example to compare to this; not even apple/oranges, more like apples/bicycle. OJ was on a plane out of the state and lawyered up right away and still he was arrested a week later. I don't know what was in the kid's head, maybe he didn't feel as threatened as the situation dictated but even if he did call the cops he may have been shot anyway since the guy was basically stalking him.

No, that would be you spinning what I say. I'm going by the law, I leave emotion and race and other incidentals like that out because it clouds your judgment; no matter what side you're on.

You are 'going by the law' without knowing what the on scene determination of facts were, but conclude that there should have been an arrest, charges filed, bail set, trial schedualed, guilty verdict found and jail time? That sounds like isolated workplace violence doesn't apply, at least, as it's been noted at Ft. Hood. However, Florida law may differ the circumstances as in 'going by the law'.

since the guy was basically stalking him.

Zimmerman was following him, that is far different than
stalking, and the only point I was trying to make in the OJ
case, was that it did take a week....they didn't arrest him
when he got out of the car....

this is getting out of hand fast, groups putting out a bounty,
and whole basketball team wearing the hookie....

Bill Cosby seems to be able to look at things with an open
mind....he says that people get treated the way they want
to be treated, you dress and act like a hood and you get
treated like a hood.....speaking of hood, look at the case
at Fort Hood, Our President didn't call that murder, he called
it workplace violence.....

This case has so many lessons to be learned, for me one of
them would be, there have been robberies in this neighbor,
I would look first at Zimmerman, his looks and his past record,
don't think we was a great pick for the captain of the watch......

I have been not following this story too closely,since there was alot of heat but not much information. all we were told was that zimmerman followed the boy and that the boy was then shot we didn't have much details on what occurred that would cause this,just alot of speculation and accusations without any facts. mostly from preconceived biases that we get from the media.

now, we are starting to get more of the facts leaked,but it may be too late to help,as he has already been publically hung by the mob mentality we often see on people willing to judge without the facts.

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www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012

The night of that shooting, police say there was a witness who saw it all.

Our sister station, FOX 35 in Orlando, has spoken to that witness.

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The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: 'help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911," he said.

Trayvon Martin was in a hoodie; Zimmerman was in red.

The witness only wanted to be identified as "John," and didn't not want to be shown on camera.

His statements to police were instrumental, because police backed up Zimmerman's claims, saying those screams on the 911 call are those of Zimmerman.

"When I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point," John said.

Zimmerman says the shooting was self defense. According to information released on the Sanford city website, Zimmerman said he was going back to his SUV when he was attacked by the teen.

Sanford police say Zimmerman was bloody in his face and head, and the back of his shirt was wet and had grass stains, indicating a struggle took place before the shooting.