No. Not even close. And he never will be...
I'm not even convinced that all three of Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz belong.
I'd like to see some folks removed from the Hall of Fame on the grounds that they just weren't nearly good enough to be considered one of the best ever.
Maddux should definitely be in - the other two I'm not sold on.
One of my points was that Hall of Fame has already become so watered down that it hardly means anything anymore - that's why I said we should be taking people out instead of adding more who don't deserve it.
Comparing current players to the ones that are already in and saying "Welllllll... this guy has similar stats to this one and HE is already in there..." that's WHY the Hall of Fame is already so worthless - so don't make the same pathetic argument for any current player.
This was totally NOT what I expected when I opened this thread. I figured that it was going to be a homer thread caught up in the moment of Hudson's 200th victory.
In terms of him being HOF worthy or not, he's about as fringe as you can get. If he has a couple more good years, especially with the Braves, I think the he will eventually get inducted.
I have thought about this with Huddy recently but my general rule of thumb is that if you have to think about it at all the answer should be "no".
As for the other 3, they are slam dunk first ballot Hall Of Famers....I don't think I have ever heard anyone say they shouldn't be. He won't be, but Madd Dog should be the first unanimous HOFer.
I don't think Koufax should have ever been in the HOF. He only dominated for 6 of his12 seasons, his first 6 seasons were very average.
Maddux is a lock on the first ballot and Glavine should make it eventually.
if Huddy plays another couple of good seasons with the Braves then I think he at least makes it on the ballots. if he were to quit baseball right now I don't know if he would get the votes to get to Cooperstown.
but to say that Glavine, Smoltz, or Maddux shouldn't be in the HOF is just nuts.....nuts I tellz yah
Let's add a caveat here. Is Roy Halladay HOF worthy? Iknow Doc has 2 CY Youngs but when you look at the stats Hudson has been more consistent.
Hudson/Halladay lifetime stats
IP 2717/2719W 200/201L 105/103ERA 3.42/3.35Avg Agnst .248/.253WHIP 1.24/1.17