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    • Obamas Lies Part 3
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  • Nov-7
  • purplehawk
Supporting links?
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  • Nov-7
  • purplehawk
As it stands now, what's been posted is merely an unsubstantiated claim from a right-wing partisan. I asked for a link.
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  • Nov-7
  • howie88

Watch FOX news, you'd know. Watching CNN only gives you the left side.

Or you could search for Obama stimulus north chicago teachers. But I'm sure that's way too difficult for you.

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  • Nov-7
  • zork57
Fox news gives you the party line that you need to become a Stepford republican.
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  • Nov-7
  • purplehawk

Ain't that the truth!

They must also give instructions on how to make brazen claims without bothering to provide any supporting links.

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  • Nov-7
  • zork57
Their links would be the script that Rupert Murdoch and his facist friends provide them or else snippets from websites like Free_Republic.
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  • Nov-7
  • purplehawk

That's probably very likely.

Fox and its followers are the real American fascists. That's why they're trying so hard to redirect the claim in the opposite direction.

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  • Nov-7
  • zork57
They are an important cog in the facist wheel. They keep the sheep bleating for more.
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  • Nov-7
  • JREX2

not north chicago, but the storyline seems remarkably similar here, from the daily news in washington state:
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Castle Rock Superintendent Susan Barker is so upset about how state and federal officials are counting teaching jobs as “saved” with stimulus dollars that she’s thinking of writing President Barack Obama.

State and federal figures released last week report that initial federal stimulus dollars “saved or retained” 24,000 teachers in Washington — including 36 in Castle Rock. Teaching positions make up the bulk of the 34,500 jobs listed as saved in Washington by the federal Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board, which oversees stimulus spending.

Problem is, Barker said, that’s just not true.

Barker called the federal board’s information a “misrepresentation of fact, and I know what we call that in my world.”

The state did use stimulus money to help pay teachers during the 2008-09 school year. And the federal money did help avoid more painful budget cuts elsewhere in state government. But the teachers had binding contracts and teachers never would have been cut during a school year, so saying the money saved those jobs is just plain misleading, Barker said.

What has Barker upset involves the money used last school year. She’s happy the money was available and that it helped the state avoid further cuts elsewhere. But listing 24,000 jobs that never were in jeopardy just doesn’t sit right with her.

“It’s just wrong,” Barker said. “We did not ‘save’ the number of jobs that we had to report saving. We did not ‘retain’ those jobs. ... It’s highly inaccurate.”

“I didn’t think they’d be buying data to support their position,” Barker said Monday of the stimulus funding.

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  • Nov-7
  • purplehawk

I guess. What I do know for sure is that every descriptive word about fascism fits the American right-wing these days.

["Fascism is a political ideology that seeks to combine radical and authoritarian nationalism with a corporatist economic system, and which is usually considered to be on the far right of the traditional left-right political spectrum. Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in conflict against the weak. Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state. (Remember Rove's "enduring conservative majority?") Fascism tends to promote principles of masculine heroism, militarism, and discipline; and rejects cultural pluralism and multiculturalism. Adolf Hitler was opposed to egalitarian and universal social welfare because, in his view, it encouraged the preservation of the degenerate and feeble."]

I purposely stopped at the point of "mongrels," "eugenics," and race.

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  • Nov-8
  • sit_nardi
Murdoch is a moderate who hates O'Reilly and Beck. Get informed instead of being in lockstep.
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  • Nov-8
  • zork57
You're full of it as usual Nardi. You get no info sitting in your house pretending that you actually work in the real world. Murdoch is as right wing as they come. He makes Fox go. He directs their far right wing propaganda.
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  • Nov-9
  • William_Shatner
So Murdoch wants to be more nuanced with his RW message?
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  • Nov-9
  • sit_nardi
Ask Michael Wolff. According to him, his new wife has steered him left. According to him, Murdoch doesn't want to be identified solely with Fox News, so he bought the WSJ. Read his book, I guess. I saw Wolff interviewed on MSNBC and thats what I heard from him.
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