Don't count on Butler to sign long term unless the Royals get good in the near future. I heard a quote very recently where it sounds like the Royals want to sign Butler but that Butler doesn't want to sign long term yet. Apparently Grienke was on that page last year and only signed after the Royals made the moves they did last year in Crisp, Jacobs, and Bloomquist. It sounds like Butler is going to wait for actual residuals rather than promising moves. Hope their farm start producing quickly!

Where did you hear such quote?

From an upper office guy within the organization. It was implied that the Royals are willing, but Butler not so much. He's not willing to be a building block without seen proof.

Were you having beers with him or was it actually printed somewhere?

I really don't want to get in on your interogation/arguement, but, why would he want to sign long-term?I don't need someone who has an "inside-track" to explain it to me....

you could call it a "beers" situation.

Exactly!

Yeah, not sure how much news this is. I can't think of much reason why Butler would be interested in signing a long term deal right now. He's just coming off his first full season, with a pretty solid pedigree, playing for a team that was a mess.

An insider informed me that Gordon and Greinke are demanding to be traded.............see this it's easy to say you know someone on the inside and make things up, I think this is what duckhooking was getting at.

I had a guy tell me that he was close with the KC front office and that they were saying Calvin Pickering was going to do big things for KC, and we all see how that turned out.

Even if this were so, and he does have a track to the inside........our front off is so moronic at times, that it could just be the opposite, Butler actually wants to sign long term.

- oh hey guys, I just phoned in and talked directly to Mr Moore and he said that he's starting to think he may have made a mistake by signing Farnsworth --- ok ok, we all know that isn't true.....he wouldn't say that was a mistake, it's all part of the "process"

It doesn't really matter to me if you believe it or not. A more simple proof will be if we don't win Bulter will leave. If we win Butler "might" stay. We'll see in the next couple of years. If Butler is staunch on never signing (which wasn't the indication) then he could be traded this winter.

If the Royals do indeed dump Teahen, could be a lot of their young players would see this as the value the Royals put on loyalty. I know of no player who has been more accommodating to the Royals than has Teahen.

Yep.

Yet another factor that irritates me about this deal.

Accommodating? Yeah, he played for free.

Sorry, but the fact that Teahen played a variety of positions without complaining isn't accomodating. It's a fact of life for a guy whose bat isn't good enough to earn a full time job at one position. Don't get me wrong. I like Teahen, in part because of his attitude. But I'll take a jerk who produces over a nice guy who doesn't any day. Of course, when you have jerks who don't produce (cough <Guillen> cough) that's really fun!

LOL, do people really think this is similar to the Damon, Dye, Beltran situations where we couldn't sign Teahen so we had to dump him?

This has nothing to do with Loyalty or that we can't keep young players....Teahen blows and is owed 5 million dollars. It's a huge mistake to go ahead and just keep him around and pay him money that we can't afford to give a mediocore at best player.

There isn't a single thing wrong with this deal. Is it a huge, great deal...no of course not. It's quite apparent that if you don't like this deal that either..

A) You don't know what the value of the players involved are.
B) You love Teahen, the guy, and just don't like to see him go.
C) You hate everything the Royals/DM does.

Do I love this deal? No, its rummy A for rummy B & C so there isn't really much to "love", but the deal is absolutely fine. I don't really see any reason to hate on the deal unless one of the 3 above are true.

Oh good lord. You all can't be serious. Are you trying that hard to hate this deal? So, because the Royals traded Teahen, in a deal that was clearly a baseball move, other players are going to say "well, they DID trade Teahen.....Sooooooo...."

I can't understand how, given the financial bind Moore has put himself in and the multiple holes on this team, they could be in such a hurry to lock in Butler right now.

Not signing long term with this Royals team shows Billy has some smarts,if he adds some more power as he gets older and keeps getting better at 1st then he could get a big payday, if not he can still sign with the Royals.

Agreed!! Why at this point why would he want to sign with this organization???

Sounds like a lot of you "fans" are getting exactly the type organization you deserve. This was no trade it was clearly a salary dump.

"This was no trade it was clearly a salary dump. "

Weird - I could have sworn I read in several places about how both teams sent players to the other team....