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    • Late October baseball: A reality check
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  • Oct-16
  • saturn47

We saw two playoff games in marginal weather here in Colorado and tonight in New York they are playing in terrible conditions as well. We've discussed this on the board before, but MLB really needs to address this situation, especially since some of the strongest teams year in year out play in the northeast where weather conditions will typically be bad as you get into mid and late October.

Fixing the problem isn't rocket science, and MLB doesn't even have to reduce the number of games played. Simply eliminate the World Baseball Classic...it's a joke anyway, play some afternoon-night double headers on Saturdays, reduce the number of inseason days off and the season and playoffs as they are currently structured could easily be completed by the end of the first week of October, they way it was intended to be. Wake up, Bud Selig!

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  • Oct-17
  • ministrel
Please explain to me the difference between late October Baseball and late March/early April baseball?
Both are about the same.
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  • Oct-17
  • crazedjohn
If you have to make up a game in March, playing it later most likely means better weather. Postponing a late October game typically leads to similar or worse weather.
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  • Oct-18
  • saturn47

Crazed John makes a good point, and expanding on it further, there is a very significant difference between an early season game and a playoff game in terms of the attention it is drawing and the image it is portraying of baseball. There is typically also just a little bit more at stake in your average playoff game than in your typical April early season game.

When a game is postponed in early April, there is ample opportunity to reschedule over the course of 6 months. When a playoff game is postponed, you begin to create a situation where a series could go pretty deep into November which is clearly absurd. Should all of the division series and the World Series go all seven games, this season will already extend into November. Toss a couple of postponements in there and it might not get completed until the end of the first week of November. Should the W.S. end up featuring the Phillies and Yankees and a prolonged period of bad weather strike the east coast, we could be watching the deciding game of the W.S. about the time we are sitting down to Thanksgiving dinner. That, of course, is a bit of an exaggeration but Bud Selig et al are practically begging for it the way the schedule is currently structured.


Edited Oct-18   by  saturn47
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  • Oct-22
  • 26inwiper
This years season was delayed by a week because of the world baseball classic tourney, so that had some affect to do with the timing of the games, because the Rockies unfortunately would had already been eliminated by the time the snow storm hit Denver and the ws would just be getting wrapped up this weekend, which means that the two teams would have been on rest when the yankees had bad weather, weird how that played out.
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  • Oct-22
  • saturn47
One of the proposals I made above for shortening the season is elimination of the World Baseball Classic, which is causing this season to run a bit later. Nonetheless, even if the Yankees beat the Angels tonight, and it isn't looking as if it will go that way early, the W.S. STILL would not begin until the middle of next week. That is just ridiculous. It just wouldn't be that difficult to make relatively minor adjustments in both the regular season and postseason schedules that would bring the season to an end by the first week of October.
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  • Oct-23
  • 26inwiper
It's supposed to be rainy all day tomorrow for the game. I wouldn't be suprised if it gets delayed.
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  • Oct-25
  • saturn47
In point of fact, yesterday's game in NYC was postponed...I wonder if the Yankees fan who posted here a couple of weeks ago with the suggestion that MLB should have forced the Rox to build a domed or retractable roof stadium is prepared to make the same argument for the new Yankees Stadium. Conditions in NYC should be better today, but could be problematic again by mid-week when the W.S. is scheduled to begin. The simple fact of the matter is that by playing a few double headers during the season, eliminating a few off days and eliminating several off days during the playoff schedule, MLB could easily fix this situation.
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  • Oct-25
  • 26inwiper
It is crazy, if the rockies would have made it to the ws series we would have had to call it rockvember, good thing we don't have to worry about that lol, because game 4 of the ws will be played on november 1
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  • Nov-1
  • saturn47

The start of last night's game 3 in Philadelphia was delayed for nearly an hour and a half by weather and conditions deteriorated again late in the game. There is a pretty good chance of more bad weather tonight. Fortunately, the forecast for New York City for any potential 6th and 7th games doesn't look too bad. There is a pretty good chance this series will end before Thanksgiving. For all the whining and moaning that has been done about the umpires in this post season, which might influlence situations once or twice in a game, weather can affect every single play. This has to be addressed.

Just as a totally unrelated side note, are there any national sports commentators left that know jack about baseball? A huge deal is being make about Sabathia pitching on "short rest" tonight. So what? Have pitchers become that big of wimps? It used to be pretty common for a staff ace to pitch games 1, 4, and 7 in a World Series. Bob Gibson won all three of his starts and was Series MVP in 67 and it wasn't really unusual. Heck, the following year, Sandy Koufax pitched games 2, 5 and 7 for the Dodgers. What used to be the norm has become an astonishment to national sports writers who evidently don't have connection one with the history of the game.

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  • Nov-2
  • wyobuff
Koufax started games 2, 5, and 7 in 1965 against the Twins not in 1968. That was in the era when starters pitched every fourth day in the regular season. Your point is well taken though Saturn! Today's pitchers are a bit wimpy but they probably extend their careers a bit by doing it the way it is done today.
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  • Nov-3
  • saturn47

Thanks for the correction on the year Koufax pitched games 2 5 and 7...a bit of an embarrasing typo.

In the book "Baseball By the Numbers; Why Everything You Think You Know About The Game is Wrong" a strong case is made that the current norm of 5 man pitching rotations DOESN'T necessarily prolong careers or improve performance. According to the guys who did the chapter, it isn't number of starts but rather pitch counts that should be closely monitored. I strongly recommend that book to all baseball fans.

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