Now that he has become as vocal as Bobby Valentine... except Valentine didn't have to throw his organization under the bus in a book!

Bosox fans are in denial and want it to stay that way. Sad story about the Bosox fan base.

The book will probably -increase- Tito supporters, if anything.

The Revenge of Old Baldy. Now we know the real reason he was fired. He was never sexy enough for our FO. Valentine was always more of the leading man type. Plenty of hair more of a ham.

It's the offseason after a bad season, of course there is going to backlash against the owners. But if the team turns it around next year no one will care. Owners can be satanists but if the team is winning, it doesn't matter.

I agree. Just look at the George Steinbrenner saga in NY. The guy practically ruined the team during the 80s and then got suspended. The GM was allowed to build a winner and then GS returns and is suddenly beloved by all. The difference? They started winning - all the time! I loved Tito as a person and a manager. I figured that if HE and Theo left, the ownership must have some issues.

Tito was the best manager in Red Sox history. What happened to him was a disgrace. Hopefully the team can put things behind them this year.

Two things:

1) No one was knocking down his door to manage a team full of talent besides the Red sox owners, after an unimpressive stint with the Phillies. He should give the owners some credit for giving him an opportunity that no one else was willing to give.

2) Tito has some blame in this team's record going downhill as well. There were many questionable managerial decisions he made his last few seasons that you can't blame anyone else for.

Well, it's not as though a lot of managers hadn't had the same experience with other teams.

The Yankees had Torre among last in their search following Showalter's stint. He was a so so manager until he was handed a talent laden team.

And fwiw, Francona wasn't given as competitive a team in Philly, either. Tito was bookended by Fregosi and Bowa, who didn't fare a whole lot better.

If there was a strength Francona had, it was found in handling huge ego players that were often times at odds with one another... Schilling and Ramirez, Schilling and Martinez, Millar and Garciaparra... The similar kind of skill that Torre had in NY.

And sure, he bears some responsibility for the collapse in 2011, but so too did the Sox FO, who largely ignored his repeated calls for them to help.

Well, I don't know why some managers with mediocre resumes are more coveted than others around baseball, but the fact is there weren't a lot of other job offers with good teams waiting for Tito.

There was some tension when Torre finally left too, but he at least gave the Yanks some appreciation for the once in a lifetime job opportunity.

Well, the same would be true for why the Sox hired Valentine.

Francona also expressed thanks for his job with the Red Sox and during his total tenure with the club, he was the consummate company man - he never uttered an ill word towards anyone in the FO.

That changed, of course, when the media smeared the man every which way they could. And just as Torre did, here comes Francona with his take on what it was like. If you've read Verducci's "The Yankee Years", many in the Yankees FO don't come out looking so well.

Valentine took a team to the world series, a far cry from anything Tito had done.

Plenty of people didn't like him, but Bobby had established himself as someone who knew the game of baseball extremely well and a good in game manager, can't say the same for Tito before the red sox hired him.

..."Valentine took a team to the world series, a far cry from anything Tito had done."...

You're trying to be funny.

Prior to going to the Mets, Bobby spent 8 seasons in Texas and was about a .500 manager. He spent another 4 with the Mets before getting to the WS.

Francona? He spent 4 lackluster season in Philly and in his first year as Boston's skipper, won a WS.

But Valentine has never had the distinction of associating two World Series titles to his name.

The game passed Bobby by and this past season was more than enough for anyone associated with the game and knows it, understands that. But that isn't the principle point. Valentine isn't the topic - at all.

Francona is and he's finally getting to tell his story. Good for him.

The point is Tito hadn't accomplished much of anything before the owners hired him. Valentine had far far more major league wins under his belt before he started here. Bobby was a well known name around baseball, much more so than Tito Francona before he became red sox manager.

It's good he gets to tell a story, I just hope he tells the whole story. Because no one would care about anything he says if the owners hadn't hired him in the first place.

You can only accomplish as much as the talent pool around you allows. The Phillies teams he managed were junk.

Terry was the best manager that the Sox have had in at least a generation. He deserved Manager of the year in 2010. He is a baseball man first and foremost. The Indians are lucky to have him, and the Red Sox treated him shabbily.

He was a very good manager, for the most part.

Your heart just isn't in this anymore. At least, none of your other accounts are.

Good, I'm glad!

Seriously, like the BS about the marriage stuff, and pill popping just came floating out of mid air....like the bashing of almost every Sox player that has left.

This FO is full of snakes and weasels, and this isn't new news.

Werner's griping caught me off guard. I understand Larry's constant interference, but the fuel seems to be supplied by Tom to an extent.

The more you speak, the less it sounds like you know anything! Tito was, without a doubt the best Manager the Red Sox have ever had or hope to have. He is a baseball guy through and through. He's been arounf the game at the major league level his whole life......Valentine is nothing more than a loud mouth who is stuck in the '60's style of managing, and doesn't hesitate to toss anyone under the bus! What the Red Sox ownership did to Tito, after what Titio did for this ball club is unforgivable!! He did his job with class, and with 86 years worth of presure.......not to mention having to put up with wingnuts like Manny....What he said in S.I wasn't nothing more than the truth....