Everyone knows that hitting stats at Coor's Field in Denver are quite inflated. Matt Hollidays stats away from Coor's field are very telling. Away from Denver Matt Hollidays stats are (per 162 games)>> .290AVG, 94.4RUNS, 23.7HR, 93.4 RBI's & 17 SB. If Jason Bay had played 361 of his total games at Coor's Field his stats would be highly inflated as well. Too many people are taking into consideration Matt Hollidays stats at Denver falsely. If Matt Holliday were to play for and American League team he would very rarely ever play at Coor's field anymore. Now someone please try and tell me that Matt Holliday is worth up to $140 million over 7 years that he is seeking.

I think most of us know the splits, at least the knowledgeable ones, which is why many prefer Bay.

Holliday hit .353, with 55 rbi in his St. Louis career. My opinion on him is that playing for a contending team in a pressure environment is all he needs to hit good; like most good players.

But Holliday was born in 1980 and his agent's Scott Boras. Both factors right in Theo's happy zone (Drew, DiceK, Teixeira).

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All true. If Bay doesn't sign I see Abreu there.

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What is Jason Bay worth?. He's 31 years of age. Probably worth 18 million a year over 5 years. He might also want 20 million a year over 7 years. Should the Red Sox pay that much for him?

That's too much IMO, but we will be far less productive if we don't sign him or make a major trade. He's probably worth 4 years 60 million or 5 years 70 million.

Boston only signs players for how they evaluate them long term. Bay is a good hitter, not great, and strikes out way too much with a below average BA, sure he hit 36 homers and drove in 119 rbi's but that's a big year for him not the norm. He's perfect for fenway, dead pull hitter righty, but boston will not break the bank for him.

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I wouldn't really call that a big year for him. Slightly above what he's averaged for the past 5 years, but not by a lot. Especially considering those averages include 2007 when he battled a couple of injuries which held down his numbers that year.

They installed a humidor in the stadium for the baseballs which has all but eliminated the thin air advantage.

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I think being on the road has more to do with the lower stats, wouldn't you?

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Actually, this year was not that big for him. He's hit 35HR's before and is only up in RBI because he actually has men on base to drive in. His BA was more than a bit below his normal year, lifetime he's at .280. I think the numbers I posted are fair, whether the Sox give it to him is another question. I'm in the minority here but, I think Henry is a bit on the frugal side and will be surprised if he ever gave out a monster contract. Don

PS normally he's at .280 BA, 30 HR, 100 RBI. he's pretty consistent.

Correct, Ken. Also he had a crummy team around him in Pitt., which cut down on RBI and how he was pitched to.

From 2006-2008, Holliday's road numbers are .303/.385/.475
From 2006-2008, Bay's road numbers are .262/.353/.495

They are overall fairly similar, with Holliday getting on base more and Bay hitting for more power. Holliday is a year and a half younger. I don't know how his fielding is, but I know Bay's is less than stellar, although left field at Fenway negates some of the need for that.

It seems like both are going to be overpaid....here's to hoping for a Plan C!

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