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  • hellcity

Well this could not have come at a better time. With the passing of our beloved Sox, we look ahead to another NBA season which brings us to the 3rd year of the BGM thread. Of course we have our Black and Gold skating for another chance at the cup this year and that will not go overlooked. But L.A has something that belongs to us and this year we are coming to get it back...The Quest for 18! So how fitting will this article be to start the 3rd year of the BGM! GO GREEN! [ I told you it would be back Loyal]

*************Americas Most Hated************

Get ready for it. It is gathering like a sandstorm in the desert. Its so thick you can feel it. You and I may love this team with all our hearts, but the rest of the world certainly does not. This will be, hands down, the most hated NBA team in recent memory.

Fans of other teams have a long list of reasons why they are going to hate this team. Some of them are more reasonable than others. But really, how can you explain hate? It is what it is without reason. And let me pause here for a moment for a disclaimer. I am only using the word "hate" within the context of the sporting world. I hate the Lakers, but I'm sure most of them are very nice people. I just want those nice people to lose basketball games in the most embarrassing fashion possible so I can laugh and point at them.

And that is what the rest of the league's fans will want for the Celtics. Here are just a few general reasons why the Celtics will be hated.

Success: Everyone loves a winner... until they win too much. And when the winner is stepping on your team's neck, it makes it awfully hard to continue loving them. Step on enough necks and you become a bully. Everyone loves knocking a bully down a few pegs, even if it is only in their daydreams (or on anonymous message boards).

Jealousy: Similar to the previous point. Everyone hates Duke but everyone wishes their team had the kind of sustained success that Duke had over the last couple decades.

Northeast Bias Backlash: Everyone hates that the Yankees and Red Sox dominate the news. The Patriots (now the epitome of hated teams) don't help matters either. The Celtics, once they won their 16th banner, got lumped right in with all those teams that the rest of the country hates to hear about over and over again.

Ok, enough generalities. Lets talk specific people here. There are plenty of personalities for other fans to hate on this team. From the top, right on down the list.

Kevin Garnett - Somehow, KG went from being a lovable loser to despised bully. A few years back, everyone was pulling for to get a good team around him. Now that he has one, he is reviled. I've been a fan of his for many years, and honestly I don't see the difference. He's always howled, growled, stared down opponents, talked incessantly, goaltended dead ball shots, and crawled on all fours. He just did it in Minnesota on teams that couldn't get out of the first round. I can see how he would be hated, I just wish people were a little more consistent (or at least honest about why they hate him). By the way, it is nice to see that KG is already in mid-season hatable form, messing around with Yi in the 3rd preseason game.

Paul Pierce - He's a trash talker who had some maturity issues earlier in his career and was blamed for everything that went wrong with the first Team USA failure. He also had the nerve to hear a pop in his knee, take precautions by being taken to the locker room, and when he was cleared to play, come back on the court and knock down a couple of 3 pointers. Nobody's ever properly explained to me what he would have gained by "faking" an injury like that, but whatever.

Ray Allen - What's that you say? Everyone loves Raymond? Not so fast. The Elbow incident kinda speaks for itself.

Rajon Rondo - At first he was a rookie in over his head. Then he was actually really fun to watch. Then the Bulls series happened. A tomahawk chop to a guy twice his size and a pro-wrestler move on Hinrich later, and all of a sudden he's the poster boy for the short-man's complex.

Kendrick Perkins - Perk has come a long way. He was a wide eyed rookie that the Pacers picked off the end of the bench to brick a couple of key free throws. Now he's using those same eyes to stare down Dwight Howard and scowl at refs. He's one of the team's most outspoken proponent for "team ego," which makes some other players and fans take exception with what he says and does. They see him as the Ringo Starr of this team and they wonder why he wasn't talking so tough when the team was losing.

Rasheed Wallace - Honestly, does this really need any explanation? Sheed was at the top of my hate list. I have a feeling that he's going to be one of my favorites by the 2nd week of the season.

And the list goes on:

Glen "Big Baby" Davis - Between his nickname, weight, and the crying incident, he's an open target.
Bill Walker - Got scrappy with LeBron, McGrady and others as a rookie.
Eddie House - Over the top emotional, especially when we're ahead.
Brian Scalabrine - Nobody likes getting beat by a guy that looks like him.
If you want, you could even throw in Doc Rivers (longtime target of Bill Simmons) and Danny Ainge (once called a "snake" by Antoine Walker).

The bottom line is that this team isn't going to win many sportsmanship awards or popularity contests. They are going to swagger onto the court, stare the other team down, get in their ears, get in their heads, feed off the home crowd, feed off the boos on the road, and most importantly ....win.

Kinda reminds me of another guy that was actively hated around the league. His name: Red Auerbach.

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  • hellcity

=====Opening Night=====

Boston Celtics
@ Cleveland Cavaliers
Tuesday, Oct 27, 2009, 7:30 PM EDT
Quicken Loans Arena

=====following games=====

Charlotte Wed 10/28 7:30 PM EDT- Home opener!
Chicago Fri 10/30 8:00 PM EDT
New Orleans Sun 11/01 6:00 PM EST
@ Philadelphia Tue 11/03 7:00 PM EST

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===Pre-Season===
Celtics 100
Nets 93
final

BOSTON(AP) Paul Pierce scored 25 points and Kevin Garnett backed up claims that his knee is just fine, adding 12 points and six rebounds in the Boston Celtics' 100-93 victory over the New Jersey Nets on Sunday

Garnett, who missed much of last season with a strained right knee, looked comfortable as he chased loose balls and drove to the basket early. He matched his preseason average of eight points with 3:18 to spare in the first quarter, and wound up playing 21 minutes.

Brook Lopez led the Nets with 21 points, and Yi Jianlin added 20 points and eight rebounds.

The teams traded the lead 10 times and combined for 26 fouls, but Boston opened a 13-point lead in the second half on strong shooting by Pierce and clutch 3-pointers by Eddie House.

The Nets pulled within three points in the closing seconds of the game, but Michael Sweetney made two free throws with 24 seconds left to seal the win.

The Celtics' Rasheed Wallace, still in his first week with the team, managed only four points on 1-for-6 shooting. That didn't discourage the Boston faithful, who shouted louder each time he entered the game than they did for each update on the Boston Red Sox, who were leading the Los Angeles Angels 6-4 at the final buzzer.

The Red Sox ended up losing 7-6 and were eliminated from the postseason.

Substitute referees filling in during a lockout of the regular officials blew their whistles often, calling 56 personal fouls, including one on Yi just 2 seconds into the game.

Lopez led his team with 13 first-half points, but he earned his fifth personal foul - a loose-ball call that riled the Nets' bench - with 9:16 remaining in the third quarter. He spent much of the second half on the bench.

The Celtics and Nets meet again Tuesday in New Jersey.

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  • Oct-12
  • bostonredsox15
I can't wait for the season to start!! Its going to be great to see the Celtics play with Garnett back in the lineup!!
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  • Oct-12
  • loyalsoxfan2

HC!!!!!!!!!!! *HUG*

It's time to get that blank banner filled up with the '18' NBA Championship!

I am so excited about this season HC! Our bench is better than most teams starting players!

After the loss yesterday all I could say is 'thank God for the Celtics' LOL!

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  • Oct-12
  • loyalsoxfan2

We are going to be showing a lot of love to Rasheed!

I can't wait to see an energized Rasheed play with the Big 3!

Great write up HC! I really enjoyed reading your take on everything!
Couldn't agree more with the KG factor too!

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  • Oct-12
  • fromcal

Welcome Rasheed Wallace to the Boston Celtics from enemy Detriot Pistons.

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  • Oct-12
  • EllsCanFly
I was waiting for somebody to make one of these threads.. I'm excited about this season.
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  • Oct-12
  • BrainBusta
Here's to an excellent season Green! Go CELTICS!
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  • BrainBusta
This one is HC's job.
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  • Oct-12
  • loyalsoxfan2

HC started this thread in 2007-2008 season....we followed it all season long and you know what happened!

Lets do it again!

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  • hellcity
Thankx for the props Loyal. On the article it was from a Celtics forum. I just thought it would be a good way to open up another year. So I can't take all the credit on this one. I'm just very happy that we can fall right into the NBA season. Can't wait. Stay Green everyone!
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  • loyalsoxfan2

I thought for sure it was you who wrote it after I read this line...

"I hate the Lakers, but I'm sure most of them are very nice people. I just want those nice people to lose basketball games in the most embarrassing fashion possible so I can laugh and point at them."

haha! ; )

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  • Oct-13
  • fromcal

Celtics practice facility:

Teddy: "Coach Rivers looking at yah!"

Loyalsoxfan2: "OH OH"

Doc Rivers: "WHAT IS WRONG WITH YAH, JUST BECAUSE THE RED SOX LOST LAST SUNDAY DOESN'T AFFECT OUR PRACTICES, COME ON FORGET WHAT THE FANS FEEL, WE GOT A GREAT TEAM CHEMISTRY, DON'T WE?"

Celtics and their few selected fans: "YEAH BABY"

Teddy: "ha ha Loyal, mine Yankees are still surviving....."

Loyalsoxfan2: ":("

Teddy: ":)"

Loyalsoxfan2: "Your Knicks won't even draw CC Sabitias at the world famous Madison Square Garden in New York City and folk in $50,000 for a 2 hour game, LOL"

Raja Rondo: "Yeah that's right...ha ha ha.....even Donald Trump don't even attend the dumb Knicks games." LOL.

Teddy: "I'm sure Derek Jeter will attend a Knicks game....." "Right Loyal?"

Loyalsoxfan2: blushing.

Coach Rivers: "come on men, we can't let our Boston fans down without a title."

Coach Rivers: "WE HAVE A SENSE OF URGENCY !"

Coach Rivers: "You see that blank banner? everyone stare at it for an hour........."

[1 HOUR LATER]

Coach Doc Rivers: "See.......we got work to do, and its going to be a long season"

Teddy: "Knicks rookie we drafted name Jordan Hill so very very good......"

Loyalsoxfan2: "ROOKIE, HA"

H ellcity: "come on work out miss loyal"

Teddy: "miss loyal, got to be gym rat to survive out there !"

Loyalsoxfan2: "what my 4 point shot from the other basket............."

Ray Allen: "WOW, NOTHING BUT NET !"

Loyalsoxfan2: "Sportscenter TOP 10 PLAY OF THE Day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


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  • Oct-13
  • loyalsoxfan2

GO GREEN!

Too funny cal.....

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  • Oct-13
  • hellcity
I know, that was the seller for that piece. Epic line and yes, I do feel the same way....ala...BLOWOUT!
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  • hellcity
always classic cal.
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  • hellcity

===Pre-Season===
Tue, 7:00PM
at Nets
TV: CSNHD

Wednesday, October 14
vs. Raptors
7:30pm

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<p>Brian Scalabrine Could Have a Breakout Season<br />by Greg Payne on Oct 13, 2009 6:53 AM EDT</p><p>Brian Scalabrine is not a very talented basketball player. He's not overly athletic or surprisingly quick. When he rises up to dunk the basketball, our eyes open wide with surprise, rather than with awe. And when he dons a white headband, the jokes fly. </p><p>So what exactly is Brian Scalabrine? He's a jump shooting role player. Period. That's about all we can hope to expect from Scal. When he signed a 15 million dollar contract back in 2005, expectations were obviously high. We had just spent 15 million on this former New Jersey Net. Surely, for 15 million, he would add a new dimension to our rebuilding effort, right? Unfortunately, Brian Scalabrine joined the Celtics at the worst possible time for him as an individual and for the Celtics as an organization.</p><p>He entered a locker room that featured Paul Pierce, Ricky Davis and Wally Szczerbiak. He also entered a locker room that featured Tony Allen, Gerald Green, Justin Reed and Oriene Greene. The 2005-2006 Boston Celtics were bogged down with young, promising talent. Brian Scalabrine was never meant to play with young, promising talent, like the way Mark Hamill was never meant to act in a movie without the words "Star" and "Wars" in the title. Brian Scalabrine was meant to play with proven veterans. And that's exactly why he will find success this season.</p><p>Scal's first two years as a Celtic were defined by exploitation. His inability to create his own shot was exploited. His overall lack of talent was exploited. It didn't take long for Celtics fans to realize Danny Ainge might have just made a 15 million dollar mistake. When surrounded by youth, the expectations for Scal rose to a level he never would have been able to reach. Amidst players a year removed from asking girls to the senior prom, who knew little of executing NBA offensive and defensive schemes, Scal was now one of the oldest players on the floor and with that experience and knowledge of the game came raised expectations. As a result, Scal arguably suffered worse than anyone through the defensive break downs and botched offensive possessions. <br />When the team took an absolute nose dive a year later and finished with a 24-58 record, Scal was practically the laughing stock of Boston. We knew Pierce would deliver regardless of the scenario and Delonte West and Al Jefferson had potential. At least we had hope for players like those. But Scal? Scal was just there. He was the slightly pudgy red head who served as the face of the washed up 20 and 30 somethings who still believed they had an outside shot of playing in the NBA. With such a young team, Scal might have just served better as an assistant coach on the bench, rather than as a player in the game.</p><p>Then, a funny thing happened. Over the course of six weeks the following summer, the youth was shipped out of town in exchange for proven veteran talent. Unfortunately, Celtics fans' preconceptions and cemented opinions of Scal weren't changing as quickly as the team's title hopes. Now, instead of being the waste of money on a young team, he was simply the waste of money on an older team capable of winning a championship.</p><p>However, slowly but surely, amidst the heckling, the sarcastic cheers and the "Scal-a-brine!" chants, Scal's strengths on the court took shape over the next two seasons. He started in place of an injured Kevin Garnett back in '08 and provided some much necessary relief in the playoffs last season when he returned from post concussion syndrome. That's right, Brian Scalabrine was serving as the relief. And we were happy to have him. Especially now that he was playing alongside veterans.</p><p>And now that Boston's bench has been bolstered this season by Rasheed Wallace, Eddie House, Marquis Daniels and Glen Davis, Scal finds himself in the best possible scenario. Finally, at long last, he can do what he was meant to do for the Celtics. He can serve as the fifth best player on the second unit, with no heightened pressure or expectations.</p><p>Scal fits in very well with this season's second unit. His main responsibility will be to take and make open shots when they present themselves, particularly three-pointers. He's not capable of carrying a unit by himself nor is he even capable of playing a truly substantial role with a unit. But with the current make up of the bench, he doesn't need to worry about initiating the offense or even serving as a staple or main stay of the offense. All he has to do is take advantage of his opportunities when they present themselves.</p><p>The pressure facing the second unit this season resides solely on Wallace, House, Daniels and Davis. They will always comprise the gut of the second five. Even before the season began we were certain those four players would be the first four off the bench. The fifth player was a mystery until training camp. Would it be Shelden Williams? Tony Allen? Lester Hudson? Nope. Apparently it will be Brian Scalabrine.</p><p>With Scal playing alongside the four heavy hitters, he'll never need to worry about the defense focusing on him and the offense will never run through him. At best, he'll find himself on a hot streak and knock down two or three straight three-point shots. Occasionally 'Sheed and co. might ride Scal's hot hand. But that will be the extent of Scal's output this season.</p><p>And we'll be satisfied with that. Who would complain with Scal averaging between six and nine points this season? Who will complain with Scal putting in two or three baskets from three-point nation every game? Against the Knicks last Friday he shot 3-4 from deep and finished with nine points. I was enthralled by such a performance. The hot streaks he might find himself on every now and then could be huge, especially if they come about late in the third quarter and help the C's build a comfortable lead heading into the final period. There's a legitimate chance we'll see Scal in the game with the second unit during that time. Maybe that's when he'll be able to do some damage.</p><p>I suppose I wouldn't be allowed to write this if I didn't mention it's a contract year for Scal. Okay, let's move on now.</p><p>Don't count Scal out on the defensive end, either. I will always applaud Scal's hustle and energy on the opposite side of the ball and he's very adept when it comes to guarding versatile big men, like the Dirk Nowitzkis and the Mehmet Okurs of the league. At 6'9, he's tall enough to contest their shots, quick enough to scamper around the perimeter with them and strong enough to bang down low should they attempt to post him up. And if all else fails down low, Wallace should be lying in the weeds with an extra serving of help defense.</p><p>Maybe the term "breakout" is a little strong for Scal. He'll still be overpaid regardless of his production this season. But nevertheless, the increased production I'm expecting should be enough for us to no longer harp on the fact that his stats have yet to live up to his
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  • Oct-13
  • loyalsoxfan2

Cool!

Preseason game on tonight! I haven't seen one yet!

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