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    • Should we try to acquire Giancarlo Stanton?
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  • Jan-4

We have many good players in our farm and we need the power bat in our lineup.We get Wil Myers already but we don't know if he will be another star in the future.

Giancarlo Stanton is still not so expensive and importantly have the great record in MLB already.Should we use some prospects to make a deal with Marlins?

I think we can offer the package like:

1.Desmond Jennings+Richie Shaffer+Hak-Ju Lee or Tim Beckham
2.Wil Myers+Richie Shaffer+Hak-Ju Lee or Tim Beckham

Don't worry about lose many good prospects in our farm.It is very hardly to sign a long term deal with Price and we will get a package with good prospects when we trade him.

Ok,What do you think about the issue?


Edited Jan-4   by  TaiwanTBfans
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  • Jan-4

We need a good team, and a good future team.

Not one player.

It takes 8 more (dis-including pitching) to make a team.

One guy batting .280 and the rest batting .220 is not good.

But all of us batting .250 is good.

PLUS! The marlins want ALOT more then that for him.


Edited Jan-4   by  clintonk2
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  • Jan-4
I say if they take Molina ,Johnson and SRod do it...
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  • Jan-4

Right!

(Stanton will remain a fixture in Miami for the near future ... as will ... I believe ... Ruggiano. They'll be the offensive heart of the team.)

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  • Jan-4

Just to clarify, Ruggiano's scrap with Zimmer came from an arrogant young player who could, and should, have been more respectful instead of saying what he said.....However, it was not the only time his mouth got him in the doghouse.......he mouthed off big time to Shields after James, in a nice way tried to tell him something about a particular play and his comeback was something like, "what the h*ll do you know about hitting, stick to pitching big shot and buzz off."....There was more said but it almost caused a free for all in the locker room if Maddon and Foley hadn't stepped in....Didn't you ever notice when he was with the Rays he was always sitting by himself because no one liked him and his "me" attitude......Ruggiano has had that problem wherever he has played....H*ll, the Astros needed good ballplayers and could only put up with him for 2 months before they shipped him to the Marlins and now with Ozzie gone and a new manager, Ruggiano will be on a very short leash and could find himself out of Miami if he continues his past BMOC attitude!

Even after the Marlins fire sale and Stantonm saying he was very upset over all the trades, Ruggiano tweeted "No big deal, they have me!" and Stanton didn't take to that very well. The guy is a major attitude problem and ask anyone with the Rays, Dodgers, Astros and Marlins and they will tell you the same thing.....

He's got million dollar talent, but a 10 cent brain!


Edited Jan-4   by  RaysBucsLightning
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  • Jan-4
Just for the hey of it, imagine what Ty Cobb would have said or done if some journeyman pitcher "offered" him a bit of hitting advice. Yikes! Not sayin' Ruggiano is a Cobb, but unsolicited suggestions about a specific skill/specialty from someone who isn't quite on the same plane as the other person, is very often taken as meddling...or worse. I really couldn't blame his umbrage if he felt Shields was talking out of his rear.
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  • Jan-5
I don't see where Ruggiano ever amounted to much as a Ray. Bad attitude??Maybe..But you don't mix a Rattlesnake with a bunch of mice unless your feeding him..He was in the Rays Farm sytem long enough for any surface problems to surface..Joe has a way of keeping his clubhouse like a Clique..Your in or your out..Showing disrespect for an old fart not involved in day to day decisions is a no no????...LOL..Zimmers fuction whatever it is, is just as a figurehead of the past,an advisor of sorts, a sort of tribute to his longivity as a Baseball player and decent manager..Not a link to any team controversy..Ruggiano's judgement will come with his accomplishments..He will be at the Trop this year..I think he should thank Zimbear personally if he had anything to do with his being discarded and emerging as a now spotlighted player..Alls well that ends well ..For the team that benefits the most..LOL...Water does always find it's own level..
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  • Jan-5

I think I was at the game where Ruggiano made a mistake that led to one of the "disagreements" that RBL talks about.

Versus the LA Angels. Late innings. Rays ahead. Ruggiano as a defensive replacement playing left field.

I was in the area now known as 162 Landing. Then it was called something else, I do not remember what. Ball is hit to left by V. Guerrero. An easy liner, I thought. Ruggiano moves two steps ahead, stops, lets the ball drop 5 feet in front of him. IIRC, game is tied then, same inning/bit later the Angels go ahead and F. Rodriguez starts warming up in the BP a bit to my right.

We lose the game.

Anyone could have caught that ball. No heroics, no diving, no Superman effort, no nothing. Just a couple small steps and that would've been an out. Inning over. IIRC, Ruggiano played sparingly after that.

If that was it, I don't blame the Zim or Shields.

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  • Jan-5
That would be a job for a manager to take care of..Joe controls who plays and who does not I believe..I do agree if that happened and I seem to remember it and another incident.. He should have been diciplined..By Joe..I have nothing against getting rid of a malcontent..
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  • Jan-5

I tell you, when I saw that I immediately thought..."there goes the game".

One thing about Coach. He never criticizes a player during the game. If anything, he sends Davey or Hickey (depending on the player) to talk to him...during the game. After the game, he will talk to the player privately.

But I'm certain somebody had to approach him after the half was over. It was so....it was so...Little League.

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  • Jan-5

Well, the NFL, NBA and NHL are full of guys with the same kind of attitude you describe. And ... on the personal level ... plenty of guys in the MLB Hall of Fame were unbearable and intolerable in their personal lives.

In my opinion, an experienced manager and effective leader of young men should have been able to correct the problem. And ... being an obnoxious and self-centered loudmouth doesn't compare to the felonious conduct of, say, a Lueke or a Bush ... or even the MUCH more potentially serious problems presented by, say, a Hamilton!

And ... if the Marlins were willing to accept the Neanderthal behavior of, say, a Guillen, well, the Ruggiano you describe is just kid stuff by comparison!

Miami is historically a place where generating celebrity, exercising out-sized egos, demonstrating flash and bragadoccio at every turn, and living large are de riguer. Even if Ruggiano is as ego-centered as you describe ... he should find plenty of acceptance in Miami. (And, in the end, he and Stanton may well become the new "Butch and Sundance" in the sports scene there ... and the acknowledged movers and shakers of the Marlins' offense and, in fact, they may well end up being the prime energy driving the franchise over the near future!)

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  • Jan-5

Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle!

(And ... having been one ... ESPECIALLY from a pitcher!)

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  • Jan-5
Yep ... I agree!
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  • Jan-5

And ... tell me again ... how many outfielders new to the Trop have lost the flight of a ball hit towards them in the backdrops of the crowd and/or the roof?

(Plus ... any outfielder will tell you that a hard liner hit right at him is one of the toughest plays to judge distance on.)

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  • Jan-5

The backdrop of the crowd? What crowd?

The backdrop of the roof? What roof? Section 110-118?

It could have been caught bare-handed. And with two steps forward. The guys in the LAA bullpen weren't exactly mourning after the "play".

Sure...he's another Ty Cobb.

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  • Jan-5
Thats why many major Leaguers hate playing at the trop..
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  • Jan-5
What doesn't make sense is that it's referred to as a pitcher's park.
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