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    • Trade Fodder
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  • Jan-2
Trade Wil Myers and Jeff Niemann for Gioncarlo Stanton.
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  • Jan-2
In a heartbeat..
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  • Jan-2
From what I can figure. Marlins would want two front line starters. What about Matt Moore and David Archer for Stanton?
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  • Jan-2
Cobb and Nieman and Myers if they want....
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  • Jan-2
Myers will definitely be as good or better than Stanton ... and, consequently, there's little chance of the Rays trading Myers until his all-around play proves to be far less than expected ... or, w-a-y down the road, he becomes too expensive to keep. Likewise, and for much the same reasons, there wouldn't be much logic behind the Marlins trading Stanton at this time.
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  • Jan-2
The Marlins need pitching and the Rays need an Ofer w/ power to improve offense. Stantion for pitching makes sense for both teams and is a good fit. But since the Rays already gave away Shields and Davis, I'd limit the trade to one major league pitcher (Neimann or Cobb) and one or more minor leaguers. Meyers is a keeper b/c it helps the offense whenever he comes up from AAA.
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  • Jan-2

You don't trade away your workhorse starter and another potential starter in Davis for the #1 prospect in the game, just to turn around and trade off Myers elsewhere.....That is total stupidity and the RFO is not stupid.....As for Stanton, the Marlins woulds want at least 3 ML players, 2 pitchers and a position player plus a prospect or two to let Stanton go and the Rays, even though they are deep in pitching cannot afford to do that......

When you make a trade you try and make it a win-win on both sides....In the case of pitching for the Marlins and power for the Rays, it is not a win-win. Why? Simply because the Marlins get some good young pitching for now and the future, the Rays get the power they need, but also weaken their pitching, the main thing that has been the backbone of their success.......Just not feasible to do.....I also agree with tkrng that if all the potential of Myers comes through he can be just as good or better than Stanton and be another Mike Trout.....

Keep Myers, keep the pitching intact and look elsewhere, which is just what Andrew will do.

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  • Jan-2
While I agree w/ you on keeping Meyers and have a previous post to that effect on this thread, Stanton is only 23 and has shown he can hit in the bigs. Meyers has not. Also, Stantion has upside potential of another Mikey Mantle. He's that good. While I'd prefer RFO to trade pitching for Stanton, this may be the only time the Marlins will deal him b/c of their current fire sale. I doubt Friedman could put together a deal for Stanton, but I can dream.
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  • Jan-2
Mickey Mantle, huh? The Mick? Really...and a couple of MVPs and a Triple Crown coming up fast, I guess. Good one there, Trop. I'll be watching this guy, fo' sho'.
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  • Jan-2

Yea trop, watch out for the end of the dock. It drops off quick!

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  • Jan-3
Myers is a "blue chip" prospect and the Rays will control him at minimal cost for years. Pitching is what keeps the Rays in contention year after year, so trading pitching when Myers will one day put up Stanton-like numbers could never happen. Dealing for Stanton makes no sense on many levels and he isn't even in the same discussion with Mantle.
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  • Jan-3
Well I agree we can't weaken the pitching staff so that we return to a Devil Rays type team..Myers seems like he will make an impact..Maybe they trade Anderson, Cobb and a player to be named late (namely Molina lol)
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  • Jan-3

Well, if you can predict Meyers will someday put up Stanton like numbers (by the way Stanton isn't close to his potential at 23), I can predict that Stanton will develop into a Mantle like super star.

We're both predicting the future which hasn't happened yet. So who knows if are predictions are accurate. Only time will tell.

Although I sometimes predictions, I call it crystal-ball busting for the above reasons.

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  • Jan-3
Right...Stanton might "go in the tank" and Myers might become the next Mantle. Neither of us are Nostradamas, so forget the future and think practial, realistic, frugal, logical and conservative. Ergo, trading quality pitching for a big bat is not a wise move for small-market, low-revenue clubs that can't afford to make a mistake. Pitching is what will keep the Rays competitive and that "big bat" we can do without. This year's club will put the ball in play instead of striking out all the time...that is what was missing last season and we won 90 games. With the offensive upgrades, better chemistry(hitting is contageous) and more run support, wouldn't it be logical to see more balance and thus more wins? We shall see, but right now that is my read...
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  • Jan-3
Never trust a guy who after his first couple of seasons in the bigs changes his name from "Mike" to "Giancarlo." LOL! Seriously, I doubt the lowly Marlins will deal him this season. Right now, Miami...even moreso than the other MLB teams...closely resembles a minor league franchise as it is.
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  • Jan-3
Stanton is no slouch and his worth is something that is being talked about. Thought I would include our Rays team in the speculation. You know the thread is titled trade FODDER. Not Genius Trades That Rays Should Do In A Heartbeat.Stupid is what stupid does.
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  • Jan-3

Exactly!

Last season, the Rays had 1,323 team strikeouts, fifth highest among the 30 MLB teams (the highest total was 1,387) ... and Pena, Upton, Scott and Roberts combined for nearly 500 of them! So ... significantly reducing strikeouts alone will automatically make for a MUCH better offensive team! (And, Escobar, Loney and Myers haven't evidenced anywhere near the propensity to strike out as Pena, Upton and Scott did.)

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  • Jan-3
Stanton and Ruggiano will very likely be the heart of the Marlins' offense ... and fan favorites in Miami ... for a few seasons to come!
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  • Jan-4
After watching Ruggiano flourish in Miami I tend to agree with you..The Marlins owner disected the team but he didn't destroy it..I think he unloaded problems and he didn't win with them anyway..Now Torontos got a lot of egos to feed..On paper they are a lion tho...
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  • Jan-4
Ruggiano has not shown enough be hit in the middle of the Marlins order. O.K. well maybe on the Marlins. Anyways good luck to Ruggs. I know he has more potential. Experience may help him. His RBI numbers from last year are somewhat low? 36?
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