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    • we still need a DH
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  • Dec-26
.....i'm starting to think the Ray's options are pretty think at DH.....they're not going to break the bank on bringing someone in....(they'll be spending appx $9 mill on brian roberts/joel peralta and roberto hernandez, which i feel is open to 2nd guessing, especially brian roberts)....that being said, my guess is they'll bring back Luke Scott on a low price deal with incentives and hope that he can remain healthy.....(he did do pretty well early last season until he got hit by the injury bug)....they don't have a lot of internal candidates, but Leslie Anderson had a decent season at AAA, maybe he'll get a look-see during spring training....but overall, the prospects for DH are pretty underwhelming.
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  • Dec-26

richy, how ya like that.....Cuban Andersons right in the Rays own 'backyard' and wasn't even invited to ST. This is one 'dysfunctional' family!

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  • Dec-26
....i didn't realize anderson is not being invited to spring training....hard to understand why....they're either convinced he has no big-league potential or he's deeeeeep in the doghouse.
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  • Dec-27
I get tired of everyone having to kiss-up to "the almighty JOEMAD" We are missing a lot of good players be cause they won't be one of JoeMad's worshipers.
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  • Dec-27
Joe is a good man, I don't like some of his management ways..There may be a few who don't prosper by his ways but all in all he has the respect of his players...With all that said he made mistakes in not getting the best out of some who have left the team...And continues to make blundered line ps at times...
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  • Dec-27

We might get annoyed, displeased and outright angry by some of the moves Coach is known for but one thing stands clear. His record with the team speaks for itself. Fact is, can't win 'em all. Especially with the team's players and payroll. And coaches that can't coach, but merely coax. And players that can't be coached or coaxed but that need to be couched.

And twice already, fellow managers have spoken. Sort of a "how the heck did you do that with that team?" thing. I think it's called the HTHDYDTWTTMOY award.

He also has a nasty habit of changing his hairstyle ever so often. If it weren't for the glasses, you wouldn't be able to recognize him by his hair.

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  • Dec-27
Oh I could pick joe out of a crowd of nincompoops.lol
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  • Dec-27

The way I see it (and probably that's what his fellow managers thought with the HTHDYDTWTTMOY award) what other manager could have accomplished what Coach accomplished with the players at his disposal?

Out of 30, perhaps one or two? Perhaps none. That's what makes Coach unique.

Between us, maybe he will dye his hair Rays blue this year. Instant recognition.

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  • Dec-27

Bein born in Guantanamo, I don't blame him

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  • Jan-3

Geez misterv1, someones gotta be listenin to my rant. Afterall, your respondin to my comments concerning "Cuban" Anderson!

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  • Jan-3

Here's a list of free agents that might serve as a DH:

Bobby Abreu
Johnny Damon
Travis Hafner
Nick Johnson
Luke Scott
Jim Thome
Delmon Young
Lance Berkman
Carlos Lee

First prize goes to the one that argues that Delmon Young should be the Rays DH.

Consolation prize for the one that chooses Johnny Damon.

Grand prize winner is the one that argues that we should trade two or more of our pitchers for a DH that will be under control by the Ray$ for one year.

If it were left up to me, I'd be very happy with an outfield of dreams composed by Stan Musial in left, Say Hey Willie Mays in center and Roberto Clemente in right. But I have the strange feeling that it's not going to happen.

Forgot. And Babe Ruth or Ted Williams as a DH.


Edited Jan-3   by  starmand
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  • Jan-3

Here's my guess. If we get a DH, instead of doing a platoon thing with the available Rays players now.

Travis Hafner
Luke Scott
Jim Thome
Carlos Lee

One of those. And I'm not too certain about Carlos Lee.

So here's another guess. If it's going to take more than 3 mil, keep it in-house.

Of course, we could always re-sign Manny Ramirez.

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  • Jan-3
Brennan Boesch
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  • Jan-3
Let's disagree without becoming disagreeable. Okay?
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  • Jan-3
Fine, but knock off the hyperbole, like you really know what you are talking about. Couch your comments accordingly and I will gladly play nice.
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  • Jan-3

Let me try to figure that one out.

First, from the Tigers point of view. They are set in their outfield. Chances are that they will use him primarily as a bench player, unless one of their regulars gets hurt. We know that he is a right fielder, decent defense, above average bat. What they don't know is if he can play centerfield or perhaps left. So all things considered, why would they trade a known right fielder that could be very useful to them? It's not like capable bench players grow on trees.

For one, in a trade it takes two to tango. Sure, you can try it alone but then it will look mostly like the jitterbug. So if the Tigers are not thinking about trading him, a call from the Rays would have to be initiated. And let's assume they do. The first question on the Tigers' mind would then be, "how desperate are they?". The next to first question on the Rays' mind would then be, " how much would they want for him?".

From the Rays point of view. They are looking for a DH primarily. Sure, another right fielder that you can switch Joyce and Zobrist for is quite helpful. Until you start to think that Fuld can also play it. But assuming that you can play Zobrist at second on a regular basis (which I don't think is in the Rays' plan) that means that the Rays (read:Coach Maddon)will start tinkering with an outfield that may include Jennings, Zobrist, Fuld, Joyce, perhaps Guyer and Boesch. Because thinking that Boesch will become strictly a DH, refers someone that hasn't watched the Rays much in the last seven years. The Maddon era. Btw, I kinda like how that sounds...The Maddon era. Probably a lot more remembered than the McRae era, just a wild guess, if only because I have erased those years from my consciousness.

So what can the Rays give the Tigers in exchange for Boesch? Pitching? No deal. One of the regulars? No deal. Prospects? How many? Who?

Boesch is a Boras client. Strike one. Exchange one of the top ten prospects in the Rays system? Strike two. How 'bout one or two of the top 11 to 20 prospects? Ball one, high and in. Sort of another Escobar/Dietrich trade and perhaps another player to be named later? Foul ball. I seriously doubt that the Tigers will go for that. They have no need for that. And I also seriously doubt that the Rays might consider something more.

Bottom line. Can we use him? I think so. Would love to have him? Sure. Will we get him? As much a chance as the Rays re-signing Manny Ramirez.

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