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    • Zobrist Extension
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  • Dec-5
I think the FO should begin working on an extension of Zobrist's contract. He has been the steadiest part of the team since he arrived from the Houston system. he is a complete team player willing to play where needed and always contributes.
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  • Dec-5
Right on. Unsung ... but clearly the offensive MVP last season! Best all-around ... and probably most knowledgeable when it comes to knowing how to play the game!
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  • Dec-5
Probably already are...
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  • Dec-5
I was hoping Zobrist could finally become the every day shortstop ... thereby also allowing Joyce to play rightfield every day. (I HATE the second base/right field platooning ... and I truly believe it hurts both Zobrist and Joyce offensively having to put up with it ... REGARDLESS of what either might say about the circumstance!)
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  • Dec-5

Art.....Of course its a 'dig' at Joe and his left coast managing style. Under Gene Mauch (Who never did anything for the Angels), Joe learned how to carry on his legacy here to Tampa Bay, where the Rays can be tough but can't cross the finish line.

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  • Dec-5
Well ... you certainly can't win the 100 meter dash if you're not also tough over the first 99 meters!
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  • Dec-5

But Joe's 'mix and match' throws a couple of hurdles in there, so there goes the continuity.

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  • Dec-5

But what kind of "continuity" can you have if one of your main guys is hitting .290 against right-handed pitching and .200 against left-handed pitching? If you really want continuity on offense ... you probably have to have a players with maybe only a 15 or 20 point differential. (???)

Plus ... this past season ... the DL demolished any chance at "continuity". Under the circumstances, I felt Maddon maybe should have been a little more focused on establishing some sense of "stability" ... but ... between the DL and the clearly lousy play by the position players ... offensive and defensive ... very, VERY tough to do! H*ll ... for much of the season ... there were only one or two guys regularly hitting above .250 ... and as many as half-a-dozen down between .190 and .225!

And ... it's also pretty clear that most of the other small-market teams with the newer generation of managers and coaches are going down Maddon's route, too.

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  • Dec-5

nrg, that not the continuity I'm talkin about. I'm referring to the location of each player to a prescribed position that they become familiar and comfortable with. The BA of each player can be dealt with by the coaching staff, providing they are up to the task, not a Shelton type either.

How many years has it taken Zobrist to adjust accordingly to Joe's way? At least 3,4 possibly 5 and each year is his biggest guessing game. He asks himself what, where and when to do it and it has nothing to do with injuries. Ya notice each year his batting average goes down during the season. For an average athlete......too much to deal with. Zobrist by no means is no average athlete but all the changes still affect him. He's that good, he can handle it. He's like a test subject in an experiment though, how long can he continue on?

I think its a mistake to go down Joe's road but its a personal opinion. I'll always go by the 'Old School'!

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  • Dec-5

I understand ... and I tend to agree that as willing as Zobrist seems to be to bounce around from one position to another ... in the end ... I believe it will have a negative effect on his playing overall ... and I genuinely believe it has continuously and negatively affected his hitting. But ... given the big picture ... he's still won more games for the Rays single-handedly over the last few years than anyother player. I don't go fot it ... but ... on some level ... it's been working. (?)

I'm also "old school" in almost everything ... but there's NO way that "old school" managing works in the majors today. Probably not even in high school or college. Kids are F-A-R too different ... as are the effects of money and even the law!

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  • Dec-5
Stop talking about Upton, he has already packed his bags
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  • Dec-7
Did I miss something?
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  • Dec-14
One thing I missed is that Zobie signed an extension in 2010 will has options for 2013, 2014, and 2015 so the Rays can keep him by excersising the options or better yet draft a long term contract that keeps him with the team as long as Longo. That would be my solution to keeping a great team player here.
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