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    • Offense winning Price a CY
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  • 8/18/12

Start with last night, 7 runs is more than enough for Price on even a bad night.

Now tonight, Rays knocking around Weaver, who in my mind was probably tied for the lead with Price just got a good dent in his ERA which was the only thing helping him.

A lot of people still throwing around Verlander just because he has 20 more innings and 20 more strikeouts in one more start. Sorry, but if someone is pitching all those innings, they should at least get the Win. And compared to our Offense, the Tigers look like Brad Pitt with Jesus abs. Also, Price has a better ERA than Verlander. And Verlander pitches in a very pitcher friendly park. And he is allowed to face the Royals, Indians, and Twins more often!

It seems like all the analysts are throwing out the name Verlander just based on what he did last year. Hopefully Price does not get another CY Young robbed from him like in 2010. He probably has 7 more starts and will start in game 163. Hopefully our offense can give Price 7 more wins to solidify that lead

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  • 8/18/12

You still have to give the edge to Weaver over Price.

Now, if Price can improve his WHIP and batting average against? I'd like Price hands down, but as of right now, Weaver has Price beat in both WHIP and batting average against.

It's really neck and neck though, especially after our lineup took Weaver to the woodshead, putting up 9 runs against Weaver for the first time during his career.

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  • 8/18/12
Offense yes ,But price is doing it the old E.F. Hutton way.....He is earning it..
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  • 8/18/12
Exactly. I consider the award the Most Valuable Pitcher. Which one has been more valuable Weaver or Price. Hands down, it is Price. Weaver has this strong offense support that has saved him in some late games from getting a loss. Weaver is in a "powerhouse" rotation. Weaver has only been statistically better thus far to the other pitchers on that team. But does anyone feel like Weaver would actually start a game 1 over Greinke, Wilson, or even Santana.
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  • 8/18/12
Didn't Weaver throw a No-Hitter? That is also keeping him for the Cy Young.
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  • 8/18/12
ESPN picked Price for now. Who said they are big market biased?
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  • 8/18/12
Verlander's name is raised because of last year, this year he has not been Cy Young worthy......After last night David price leads the pack for the CY Young.....At this time of the year one bad outing, or in Weaver's case, one horrible and embarrassing outing, can kill your chances......David has been consistent and would actually have 18 wins now if he'd gotten some run support......He has about 7-8 starts left so things right now are in his favor to win it.
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  • 8/18/12
If it really counted, I'd take Verlander over Price, Shields, and a reliever of choice any day. Price is mercurial, see performance in 2010, then '11, and now again this year. He's good no doubt, but in fact I don't think he's even going to be the 'best' pitcher on the Rays staff over the long run.
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  • 8/18/12

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree.....There is no comparison between Verlander and Price......

This year Verlander is an average pitcher with a hitting machine behind him to get runs.....He is certainly NOT the pitcher he was in 2011....Just as Price, even with better stuff, wasn't as good in 2011 as he was in 2010 and is now in 2012......Right now Verlander ranks #4 on my Cy Young list and David is #1, where he belongs........

As far as "best pitcher" on the Rays staff, absolutely he is the best right now, but Matt Moore could be his equal in another year and it would make the 2013 staff extremely solid top to bottom....Price, Moore, Hellickson, Cobb, Archer.....That would be a tough staff for anyone to beat!!

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  • 8/18/12
Ha...why am I not surprised? We'll see as things go forward. Even this year's CYA still has a few pages to be turned before all is said and done.
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  • 8/18/12
I do hope that Price wins 20 games or more an wins the Cy Young award this season.
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  • 8/19/12
Not surprised you'd think it was funny....You admit your not a Rays fan and don't care one way or the other, but Price is head and shoulders above Verlander this year and will be for years to come.....sorry!
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  • 8/19/12
"Sorry" for what, an ex-D ball pitcher's opinion? In your vernacular, 'BFD!!!', we get those all the time. But I digress...as I said, we'll see how things play out in the long run. This season isn't over yet, and there will be several more for both of 'em to prove their finer points.
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  • 8/19/12
I don't understand why you even if not a fan take the time to express an opinion ..
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  • 8/19/12
Again, and maybe for the 3rd or 4th time, why do you care?

Edited 8/19/12   by  oldtampian
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  • 8/19/12

Well ... at this time ... I think Price is by far and away the best pitcher in the Rays' rotation. (?)

Early in the season, fantasy league rankings had Shields ranked #9 in the AL and Price #10 ... but I think, all-in-all, that Price has ALWAYS been better than Shields ... and has greater long-term potential ... whether he's on a hot streak or not. (?)

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  • 8/19/12
As long as he stays healthy, Price will always have the edge on Moore.
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  • 8/19/12
Agree, but Moore has the potential and the tools to be right there with Price and with Shields gone after this year a one-two punch of Price and Moore will be hard to beat, then add Hellickson, Archer and Cobb and that is a young, but very formidable starting five!
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  • 8/20/12
Actually I don't but I feel compelled to point out an obvious..
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  • 8/20/12
Well, since you "don't," and seem unwilling or unable to "point out an obvious..," (maybe this makes sense to somebody) how about compelling yourself to simply butt out of dwelling about what or why I post on this forum. You're obviously way too old to indulge in a juvenile activity like questioning someone's 'fan' standing. Leave that to the 13 year old's on, say, a college football BBS, and we'll press on talking baseball from there.
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