Espn,mlb network etc etc,,,why c"mon we r in second place 2nd best bullpen in mlb,, i dont understand ,,i thinkWe need more fans inside the park
I have no confidence in the team because the last 4 games I have been to they have been embarrassingly bad. The game tonight was pretty awful. Buck seems to not even care anymore. Why not pinch hit for Teagarden in the 9th? Why not argue the call when the second baseman dropped the ball at second. That triple that they A's had was from Adam Jones not hustling and cutting off that ball.
Hunter can't pitch at camden yards he needs to go to oakland or san diego where those home runs will be fly outs.
"WHy include Gregg in this list. he has actually pitched pretty well this season."
Right. He has pitched remarkably well whenever the O's are up or down by a large amount of runs. There is a reason why Buck only uses him in those situations. Have you watched the Orioles at all that last couple of seasons?
so your saying no one can complain, and if they do they have to stop being fans of the team? are you saying no one can criticize this team, that the team is beyond being criticized? that just makes no sense to me. they are just expressing how they feel about how the team is playing, and they are correct in that assessment. what have they said that was false? if you can compliment a team, then you can criticize a team, it works both ways
how many have criticized the team for keeping gregg, reynolds, among others, should they keep their mouth shut? how many have complained about call ups, and demotions of certain players? should they be quiet? there's more that 1 way to criticize this team, your picking and choosing what, and how people can, who made you the criticism boss?
people have criticized dan, he's part of the team, you don't say anything about that to them, why?people have their opinions just like you do, if you can post yours, so can they, you don't have to agree with them, but you have no right to tell them they can't, or they are not fans and must leave. instead point out where they might be wrong, give examples why you think they are wrong, stick to the points of their post, not just tell them if they don't like the team, or have no confidence in them, then leave. that says to me you have no counterpoint, all you have left is to say shut up, and leave.
The Orioles are the 2012 baseball seasons equivalent of Herman Cain in the Republican Primaries. Sure, he was in the lead for a few weeks, but no one seriously considered that he could get the nomination because of his major flaws. Whereas the O's have inconsitant starting pitching, bad defense, lack of timely hitting; Cain had his affairs, the fact he never held any political office, the 999 tax plan that he could never explain and that commerical with the guy smoking at the end.
The experts don't give us a chance because objective observers want a team to prove themselves through 162. We as fans want them to succeed and are looking for every validation that the team will, when a ESPN analyst, like Aaron Boone who said the O's were the AL East team in the most trouble back in June when they were still in first place, makes a statement that clearly points out the shortcoming of our team, we immediately feel that the analyst "hates Baltimore" or doesn't give us any respect. We have a "little brother" mentality here in Baltimore and that clouds our judgement when it comes to how baseball is covered. The Ravens get respect nationally because they are a perennial playoff team. Do they get the same level of respect as the Patriots or Steelers, no because those teams have won Super Bowls recently. A team that has had 13 losing seasons in a row and what most feel is a Mickey Mouse organization is not going to get respect just because they are 4 game over .500 at the end of July.
It is true that the Yanks and the Sox get more coverage on ESPN (I still don't think ESPN even recognizes that the Giants won the World Series 2 years ago), but that is not going to change unless 20 million people suddenly decide to move out of the NY and Boston Metro areas. It's frustrating, but look to MLB network for more balance. ESPN may actually give the O's a little more respect because of the connection the Baseball Tonight crew has with Buck.
The O's remind me of the Pirates from last year, which may bode well for them next year.
"so your saying no one can complain, and if they do they have to stop being fans of the team?"
No. Read my post and you can see what I said. Non stop anti-Oriole, negativity that flows from some of these people just makes me wonder what is wrong with them. I don't understand people that would devote countless hours to trash talking a team that they don't believe has a shot at doing anything. Why are they wasting their time? What are their motives? Are they just trying to make themselves feel better by bringing the die hard Oriole fans down? Everyone vents and criticizes sometimes, I'm talking about the people whose posts are 90% negative, the ones that disappear from the boards when we are winning and show back up when we a lose a game or two. I'm just saying that I don't understand what goes on in their heads.
"... I don't understand what goes on in their heads."
It's pretty scary when you try to guess... and visualize... what goes on in their heads though, isn't it?
I can't crawl inside the heads of those you characterize as being "anti-Orioles" and full of negativity. But, speaking from my own experience, I wonder if their behavior stems from the accumulated frustration built up over SO many seasons of poor play, poor management, and some bad luck along the way (though bad luck is hardly a phenomenon limited to the O's). I suspect the "trash talking" is more about making themselves feel better than "bringing down die-hard Orioles fans" (in most cases, anyway). Much of the negativity is not without basis, though some of us might hope to see more balanced posts and recognition of the "bigger picture," which includes positives (something you naturally try to highlight in your own comments, hunt_yanks, it would appear).
As I've said on here before, you'll always find folks who see the glass as half empty while others see it as half full. I do see this board as a place where venting and criticism can be part of the discussion--and it doesn't necessarily mean you're "anti-Orioles." Personally, I can't picture myself reading (or contributing to) a discussion board where only cheerleaders for the team are welcome--I want to see a mix of viewpoints. However, those who present only a negative view constantly and continuously not only stifle reasonable discussion, but become flat and boring rather quickly.