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    • Browns Fans refuse to attend game because theyre not winning
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  • Oct-29
  • steveox

I cant post a link here i can give you the story

Enough! Fed-up Browns fans planning protest

Hoping to make a statement to protest the NFL team's abysmal record -- this season and since the team returned in 1999 -- some Browns backers are encouraging fans to walk in late to the Nov. 16 home game against Baltimore.

BEREA, Ohio -- Tired of seeing their beloved Browns lose, some Cleveland fans are fighting back.
Hoping to make a statement to protest the NFL team's abysmal record -- this season and since the team returned in 1999 -- some Browns backers are encouraging fans to walk in late to the Nov. 16 home game against Baltimore.

Two longtime season-ticket holders came up with the idea after last Sunday's 31-3 loss to Green Bay.
They are hoping the temporarily empty seats for a nationally televised Monday night game will send a message to owner Randy Lerner that they want a better product on the field.
The Browns are 1-6 this season and 55-113 since 1999

Now wny cant O's fans do this? Were sick n tired of Peter Angelos right? What Browns fans are doing is getting the NFL attention to do something about Mr Learner. Now if O's fans Boycott the O's maybe Bud Selig will take the team away from Peter Angelos and the MLB owns the Orioles. Sometimes if you want changes then TAKE A STAND!!! If Browns do ""do this"" I will start think about not renewing my Season Tickets until Peter Angelos is gone. My Next Birthday wish is Peter Angelos is gone! If i see him there im gonna say,,,Hes Still here! So Fans TAKE A STAND Let Start Boycotting O's 2010 season until we see them in 1st place.

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  • Oct-30
  • lstavailnn
Peter Angelos turns 81 next year so he won't be around for much longer. I don't think people will appreciate you trying to tell them what to do though. I haven't been to an O's game in a while, but I'm still going to try to make it to a game this year.
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  • Oct-30
  • willym

There already was a protest. In case you didn't hear about it, it was held late in the 2008 season.

Peter Angelos did not leave, nor did Bud Selig take the team away from him. The Orioles have responded by trying to build the team by developing young talent through the minor leagues, which means they basically stuck with the same course of action they were pursuing before the protest.

It is profoundly unlikely that another protest would have any different result.

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  • Oct-30
  • 3pickoffs

Otto Graham lived past his 82nd birthday. Lou Groza died at the age of 76. Jim Brown is now 73 years old. The Old Browns won't long be with us and neither will Peter Angelos... steveox will need another metaphor.

It's a hard world.

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  • To:All
  • Oct-30
  • steveox
You have to do it every day. Baseball is differant than from the NFL. When Fans refuse to go to games the league takes notice. Look what happened to fans of Montreal. They finaly got sick of the EXPOS after that strike season. All those fans wanted is to see a winning season. We should demand the O's should have winning seasons by now. 13 years is too long its time to win now. Look at the Cincy Bengals all the sudden theyre winning. Now its time for the O's to win. So if enough fans do this for the entire season 2010 season unless theyre in 1st place then MLB will take notice Bud Selig will take the franchise and MLB will own it. The NFL is now threating to take the Lions away from William Clay Ford because hes running the lions franchise to the ground. Samething Peter Angelos is doing to our birds. We must take a stand!
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  • Oct-30
  • 3pickoffs

"Look what happened to fans of Montreal. They finaly got sick of the EXPOS after that strike season. All those fans wanted is to see a winning season."

"The Montreal Expos finished the season with the best record in Major League Baseball. The Expos had 74 wins compared to 40 losses. The 1994 Major League Baseball strike forced an end to the season and any postseason aspirations that the franchise had. One of the highlights of the season was that five Expos represented the National League at the 1994 Major League Baseball All-Star Game held in Pittsburgh. Moisés Alou had the game winning hit for the National League."
____ Wikipedia

Did Montreal fans stop going to games because their team was losing?

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  • Oct-30
  • steveox
After that strike season the EXPOS started to lose again. And the fans had enough. So when are O's fans are gonna finaly reach to that breaking point. Baltimore Colts fans had enough with Irsay and that last home game vs Houston there were only 19,000 fans at Memorial Stadium. The Browns fans are now on edge. At least we all know that Art Modell was right for moving the team to Baltimore. So when are O's fans gonna reach that point they have enough with Peter Angelos?
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  • Oct-31
  • 3pickoffs

"So when are O's fans gonna reach that point they have enough with Peter Angelos?"

What difference, exactly, would that make?

If you can come up with a half a billion dollars, make the man an offer. He owns the team.

Danny Snyder owns the Redskins. Offer him a couple of billion dollars and you can talk.

The Sultan of Brunei owns Brunei. Offer him a couple of trillion dollars and he might talk.

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  • Oct-31
  • steveox
When you can get someone to represent me and file a 4 billion dollar lawsuit against the Obama adminstration then ill be gladly take over the O's. Besides im a Ravens fan. I laugh at the Redskins. Im 100% Satisfied with Steve Biscotti.
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  • Nov-3
  • domenic008

I'm a Skins and O's fan, so I have the best/worst of both worlds (but I root for the purple and black if they're not playing the Skins). Speaking for myself, I've always said that my love of the Orioles is much greater than my hatred of Peter Angelos. As ridiculous as this might sound, I think that the fans should give them a chance to see this rebuilding process through. I don't like Angelos, but I will give him credit for keeping the team in Baltimore when there was talk about them moving (when he first bought the team), and for bringing in Andy MacPhail. If you notice, we haven't really heard much from Angelos since MacPhail's arrival, and that's how it's supposed to be. Angelos brought in an extremely qualified GM, and has since somewhat stepped away. Unfortunately, Daniel Snyder hasn't learned that yet, and I have to wonder if he ever will. I think that he's a bit more dedicated to winning than Angelos, but Angelos also seems to be trying to correct the mistakes of the past by doing things the right way now. Nevertheless, both of them could take cues from Steve Bisciotti and Ted Leonsis on how to own a professional sports franchise. (I'd love to see Bisciotti buy the O's one day if Angelos was ever selling and he could afford it.)

As for the Browns' fans, I'd recommend that they be careful. While I'm a Redskin fan (and I live in Northern VA), I was always extremely proud at how Baltimore embraced the Ravens. Whether the team was in contention or not, that stadium is usually packed, as the fans remember what it was like having no football. The Colts didn't leave due to lack of fan support per se, but Irsay was a worthless hack of an owner that not only had no loyalty to the city, but in fact he despised Baltimore. From day one, he fought with the city council and William Donald Schaefer on the stadium issue, all while slowly gutting the team. When fan support dwindled and he didn't get a stadium, he moved. (Obviously, fan support dwindled because the team was poor due to him gutting it.) My point is that Baltimore lost a team once, and as a result the fans appear to be committed to never having that happen again. Cleveland also lost a team, and I might add a team with equally as much history as the Colts. Those fans should be careful in their protesting, because if it can happen once it can happen again. In theory no team is safe from moving, but if you protest with your wallet too much, the owner will eventually get the message for sure...and the option of moving the team to a place where he can get more of a profit will suddenly be on the table. Ultimately one would hope that the owner would try to make changes (as Angelos did) to put a winning team on the field before moving, but ultimately sports is a business, and there's no getting by that. The Washington Capitals were bad for years, but now they have solid ownership and a championship caliber team, and the place is sold out. Assuming that Angelos continues to stay out of things as he's been doing, that'll be Camden Yards again one day.

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  • Nov-10
  • lynnrd

Thousands of tickets left for MNF

BEREA, Ohio -- The Cleveland Browns have not yet sold out next Monday night's game against Baltimore Ravens and are facing their first TV blackout since 1995.

A team spokesman said "a few thousand" tickets remained for the game and it was too early to say whether the game would be televised in the Cleveland area. The team has an 8:30 p.m. deadline on Friday to sell the remaining tickets.

The Browns were facing a similar dilemma this summer, when their broadcast partner, WKYC-TV, purchased tickets to ensure the game would be seen locally.

Cleveland isn't the only NFL market to have trouble with ticket sales. Jacksonville, Oakland, and Detroit have failed to sell out games this season and a few other teams have needed deadline extensions to avoid blackouts.

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  • Nov-10
  • Eddie_2
I'm pretty sure that Detroit's first win against the Skins was blackouted because the game was not sold out. Sad.
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  • Nov-10
  • steveox
Art Modell was right!! And IRSAY & NFL WAS DEAD WRONG ABOUT BALTIMORE FANS CANT SUPPORT THE NFL!! The NFL Made a big mistake by allowing Cleveland get another franchise. Cleveland fans cannot support The Indians,The Cavs nor they cant support the Browns. And What did the NFL DO?? They Bypass Baltimore against the expansion franchise instead the gave the team to JACKSONVILLE who cant support the Jags. He11 Baltimore can support the NBA then cleveland supporting the Cavs. I gurantee you one thing,,If the L A Clippers moved to Baltimore theyre get more sellouts than the Clippers do in Los Angeles. If Baltimore gets the Ottawa Senators they can support NHL too!!! I Know Baltimore i know their fans are sports hungry,, But if someone suggested to the olympic committie Baltimore gets 2020 summer Games I Gurantee you Baltimore would be Awarded the games by the IOC then Obamas Chicago town. But no one will listen. The NFL Didnt listen to Baltimore,,The NBA Wont listen to Baltimore and nether the NHL will listem to Baltimore,,But will the MLS listen to Baltimore by granting us a team after 71,000 fans packed up M&T Bank Stadium to watch eurpean soccer. DC United should move to Baltimore D C Fans cant even support sports except the Redskins..In Fact theyre more O's fans then NATS fans. The Wizards cant even draw big the Caps have good attendance But the D C United draws only 12000 fans at RFK. I Challenge the Owner of D C UNITED to play 1 game in Baltimore and he will see 71,000 fans there. So the NFL was DEAD WRONG About Baltimore but they felt sorry for Cleveland losing a team.But the NFL Looked the other way when Irsay took the Colts to Indianapolis on March 29th 1984 not 1 Owner stood up against Irsay NO ONE!!! But when Art Modell moved the Browns ohh yeah the Whole nation started say how that was wrong Even that hypocrite Irsay said what Modell did was wrong. Im Tired about the Media feeling sorry for Cleveland fans.. I want ALL BALTIMORE MEDIA People to Ignore Cleveland dont say a word on this story look the other way if Fans want to read a newspaper on this,,GET THE WASHINGTON POST,, If you wanna watch the news WATCH ESPN. Dont Look on WJZ TV cause theye not gonna say a word about this. We all should learn from Jesus Christ when he said " Turn the Other cheek" Thats what im gonna do,,Turn the other cheek from Cleveland.
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  • To:All
  • Nov-10
  • Orangeade
Isn't it about time for them to lose the team again?
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  • Nov-11
  • lynnrd
You are correct.
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