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    • Is Wright on drugs now?
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  • 2/18/13
  • Kranesback

Maybe he’s drinking the Kool-Aid, but David Wright suggested as much after Monday’s first full-squad workout.

Wright said the organization made the right call in not considering parting with Zack Wheeler or Matt Harvey in a potential trade with the Arizona Diamondbacks for Upton, who eventually landed with the rival Atlanta Braves. Wright said he prefers seeing what Kirk Nieuwenhuis and Matt den Dekker can offer in the outfield anyway.

“I grew up with Justin. This is no knock on Justin. He’s a great player,” Wright said. “But I’ve seen a couple of bullpens from Zack Wheeler and Matt Harvey. I wouldn’t trade them for anything.

“There’s a lot of teams that wanted Justin Upton. There’s a lot of teams that wanted Michael Bourn. What makes me more excited is how Nieuwy responds, how den Dekker responds -- these guys that now have the opportunity to go win a job and prove themselves.

“I’m almost excited to really not get those guys, to really give these young guys an opportunity to see what they’re made of, to develop, to win that job. Maybe that’s my optimistic whatever, but I like looking at things glass half-full. And I like the opportunity those guys are going to get, because I think there’s a lot of athleticism out there in the outfield that we have. Not a lot of household names. A lot of people probably don’t know much about some of these guys. But they’re baseball players, they’re baseball rats. Just from what I’ve seen so far, they’re eager, anxious and hungry.”i

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  • 2/18/13
  • Moses0507

'not considering parting with Zack Wheeler or Matt Harvey in a potential trade with the Arizona Diamondbacks for Upton,'

You think that is bad??

Who would be stupid enough to trade Wheeler or Harvey for Upton?

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  • 2/18/13
  • sheadro

"Who would be stupid enough to trade Wheeler or Harvey for Upton?"

I may have. I'm not mad that we decided to stay the course on hoping that our potential rotation of young studs pans out, but fans are overvaluing Wheeler if they don't realize that he is fair return for Upton, or maybe they are just undervaluing Upton.

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  • 2/18/13
  • GoMets6986
I could maybe understand this trade if we were a playoff team this year but we're still rebuilding. No reason to give up our best prospects.
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  • 2/18/13
  • Melo15nym

"I could maybe understand this trade if we were a playoff team this year but we're still rebuilding. No reason to give up our best prospects."

Right on.

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  • 2/18/13
  • Melo15nym

"Who would be stupid enough to trade Wheeler or Harvey for Upton?"

"but fans are overvaluing Wheeler if they don't realize that he is fair return for Upton, or maybe they are just undervaluing Upton."

Nobody is overvaluing Wheeler. We're talking about a top ten prospect at the moment now.

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  • 2/18/13
  • Remember86
I think he's just talking up the Met players to show his support and give them some confidence. I wouldn't be surprised if privately he's disappointed that some of the more elite players out there weren't brought on.
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  • 2/18/13
  • Kranesback
I think it's mostly that he wants to be the "alpha dog", but can't lead or feel challenged.
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  • 2/18/13
  • Metopia
I hope MLB doesn't start testing the players for common sense. We can't afford a Wright suspension.
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  • 2/18/13
  • Gepett0

i dont really see anything wrong w/ what he said

i also never would have traded either of those pitchers for upton

hes overselling on kirk and MDD but thats more him trying to support the young guys hes being asked to lead...nothing wrong w/ that.....

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  • 2/18/13
  • thagreat1
You really would rather have Upton than Wheeler or Harvey? Only person I'd trade one of them for straight up is Stanton maybe. Doesn't a future rotation of Niese, Wheeler, Harvey, Syndergaard, Montero (Fulmer..Mejia?) Send chills down your spine?
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  • 2/19/13
  • brianinwi

Repeat after me. Pitching wins championships. Pitching wins championships. Pitching wins championships. A young, potentially frontline starter is ALWAYS worth more to an organization than a mid-career outfielder. Only exception might be if the team is on the verge and needs one piece to complete the puzzle.

Trading Wheeler for Upton is just short-sighted and wrong.

Too many baseball fans have no appreciation for the importance of pitching.

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  • 2/19/13
  • TheObsoleteMan
Pitching wins championships.
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  • 2/19/13
  • edmet
agreed, we need to keep harvey, wheeler, tda and as team leader, wright has to show confidence in young guys and build them up. what do people excpect him to say, we s.ux?
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  • 2/19/13
  • marvelousmarvin

expect him to break out a round of "You Gotta have Heart"

[David]
You've gotta have heart
All you really need is heart
When the odds are sayin' you'll never win
That's when the grin should start
You've gotta have hope
Mustn't sit around and mope
Nothin's half as bad as it may appear
Wait'll next year and hope
When your luck is battin' zero
Get your chin up off the floor
Mister you can be a hero
You can open any door, there's nothin' to it but to do it
You've gotta have heart
Miles 'n miles n' miles of heart
Oh, it's fine to be a genius of course
But keep that old horse
Before the cart
First you've gotta have heart

[Terry]
A great slugger we haven't got

[Uncle Dan]
A great pitcher we haven't got

[Sandy]
A great ball club we haven't got

[Terry, Uncle Don & Sandy]
What've we got?

[ALL]
We've got heart
All you really need is heart
When the odds are sayin' you'll never win
That's when the grin should start

[Terry, Sandy, JP]
We've got hope
We don't sit around and mope
Not a solitary sob do wwe heave
Mister, 'cause we've got hope

[Fred]
We're so happy that we're hummin'

[ALL]
Hmm-hmm-hmm

[David]
That's the hearty thing to do

[ALL]
Hoo-hoo-hoo

[Terry]
'Cause we know our ship will come in

[ALL]
Hmm-hmm-hmm

[Sandy]
So it's ten years overdue

[ALL]
Hoo-hoo-hoo
We've got heart
Miles 'n miles 'n miles o' heart

[JP]
Oh, it's fine to be a genius of course

[BOYS]
Butt keep that old horse before the cart

[David
So what the hecks the use of cryin'?

[SMOKEY]
Why should we curse?

[Terry]
We've gotta get better, 'cause we can't get worse!

[ALL]
And to add to it, we've got heart
We've got heart
We've got heart

We've got heart
All you really need is heart
When the odds are sayin' you'll never win
That's when the grin should start

[Uncle Dan]
We're so happy that we're laughin'

[ALL]
Ha ha ha

[David]
That's the hearty thing to do

[ALL]
Hoo-hoo-hoo

[Terry]
So we ain't been autographin'

[ALL]
Ha ha ha

[Fred]
'Cept to sign an I.O.U.

[ALL]
Hoo-hoo-hoo

[ALL]
We've got heart
Miles 'n miles n' miles of heart
Oh, it's fine to be a genius of course
But keep that old horse
Before the cart

[Murph]
Who minds those pop bottles flyin'?

[Ike]
The hisses and the boos

[David]
The team has been consistent

[Sandy]
Yeah, we always lose

[ALL]
But we're laughin' cause... We've got heart

[ALL with Fred]
We've got heart... We've got heart


Edited 2/19/13   by  marvelousmarvin
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  • 2/19/13
  • TheObsoleteMan
Marv, with a ditty
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