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    • Johan Santana 2014 option vests for $25MM if
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  • 2/15/13
  • robrock30
2014 club option becomes player option if Santana:
wins Cy Young award from 2008-13 and finishes second or third in the Cy Young vote in one other season
ranks second or third in Cy Young vote in any 3 seasons, 2008-13
is on the active roster for the final 30 days of 2013 season, and:
pitches 215 innings in 2013, or
pitches 420 innings in 2012-13, or
pitches 630 innings in 2011-13

Edited 2/15/13   by  robrock30
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  • 2/15/13
  • Mort2112
or what?
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  • 2/15/13
  • robrock30

Thanks I added the last line.

I had not heard of this player vesting option discussed. It has always been assumed that his $ was coming off the books in 2013.

This will probably hurt his trade value also.

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  • 2/15/13
  • MetObserver
This year he would have to pitch over 220 innings or win the Cy award. If he is on track to do either or both of these things he will be traded at the dead line to a contender and they will have to worry about the option year.
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  • 2/15/13
  • Mort2112
I don't think he'll reach any of those milestones.
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  • robrock30

It is 215 innings and be on the roster in the final 30 days of 2013 season.

Doesn't Santana have to consent to a trade as he is 10 & 5?

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  • Mort2112
He's not 10 & 5 yet.
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  • 2/15/13
  • Kranesback
I think he has a no trade in his contract, but I'm also pretty sure the Mets have a $5 million buyout option if he vests.
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  • MetObserver
He has a full no trade clause but don't you think he would waive that if he was going to a contender and the Mets were not in the hunt? I think he would.
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  • MetObserver
No not if it becomes a players option. Then it would be up to Santana to say if he was staying or going.
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  • Mort2112
Why would Santana agree to a buyout of a measly $5 mliion if he vests?
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  • MetObserver
If it become a players option the buyout is gone.
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  • 2/15/13
  • RobfromLI
So no need to worry about that option ...
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  • 2/15/13
  • murphstates

I highly doubt he reaches 215, but it does hamper his trade value if he's healthy. He's never pitched less than that in a full season so any contender would be risking an additional $25 million or have to limit his innings. That defeats the purpose of trading for him and I'm sure the MLBPA would have a lot to say about artificially limiting his innings.

But there's always the Dodgers.

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  • 2/15/13
  • ewok54
he has a full no-trade clause. They need his permission.
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  • 2/15/13
  • 4545_ajd

"He has a full no trade clause but don't you think he would waive that if he was going to a contender and the Mets were not in the hunt? "

If he is having a good year the Mets can offer him a qualifying contract and any team that sings him would lose a draft pick.

If he is traded however he wouldn't cost a draft pick, so he will get a better contract in teh off season if he was traded.

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  • 4545_ajd

"I highly doubt he reaches 215, but it does hamper his trade value if he's healthy. "

215 is very difficult to reach and I am sure the Mets are going to be careful with him early on and not let him go too deep into games.

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  • 2/15/13
  • edmet
apparently the $5m buyout is required if the option doesn't vest. before you blame omar, jeff wilpon negotiated this contract. but i dont see him getting 215 innings, maybe 180, which would be 30 starts x 6 innings each.
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  • 2/15/13
  • marvelousmarvin
They will shoot this dog.
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  • 2/16/13
  • 86kid

Johan hasn't thrown 215 innings since 2008.

It is unlikely in the extreme that he will do it this year.

Even if he does, it won't be in a Mets uniform. He might throw that many if the team he's traded to makes the post season.

Barring a miracle like the Mets being 15 games in 1st place in July, or a giant comet not missing the earth next time, Johan is gone before August.

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