One year after trading him, the Giants are bringing Ramon Ramirez back. The Giants agreed to sign Ramirez, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports (on Twitter).
The right-hander pitched for San Francisco from 2010-11, but was traded to the Mets with Andres Torres in the trade that brought Angel Pagan to San Francisco last offseason. One winter later, all three players signed with the Giants as free agents.
Ramirez appeared in 58 games for the Mets in 2012, posting a 4.24 ERA with 7.4 K/9 and 4.9 BB/9 in 63 2/3 innings out of the bullpen. The 31-year-old had a 46.7% ground ball rate and his fastball averaged 91.1 mph, according to FanGraphs.
i guarantee that torres has a bounce back year as a solid 4th of and ramon ramirez goes back to his effective relief pitching ways
one year after the trade, we get absolutely zero value back (total 1.2 fwar vs the 4.0 that pagan put up) and every player winds up back w/ san fran, where each will likely wind up contributing more than he ever did for the mets
"The FO is now trying to replace Pagan's speed, ability to play CF, and leadoff & is willing to overpay for Michael Bourn to replace him and to request a waiver from MLB so as not to lose a 1st round draft choice in the process."
Pagan got a a 4 year 40M deal in free agency, so if you want to talk about overpaying...
I wonder what Pagan's stats are leading off.
I don't remember him taking to it kindly.
It makes sense for the Giants for sure.
It also proves to the fanbase that the Pagan trade was a poorly conceived cost cutting move which if Bourn is signed will prove to be costly indeed. If Bourn is not signed it will also be costly as the OF will be an embarrasment and the OF jokes will be directed at the Harvard GM.
I am glad that you asked as I have researched the stats for Pagan vs. Bourn.
"It also proves to the fanbase that the Pagan trade was a poorly conceived cost cutting move which if Bourn is signed will prove to be costly indeed."
Cost cutting move? Pagan made 4.85M last year, Torres and Ramirez made 5.35M. I don't see where you are getting cost cutting from.
"Oh but at 2 for the price of 1 is cost cutting is it not?"
Ramirez and Torres made 5.35M, if the trade wasn't made it would have been Pagan and Herrera who would have taken Ramirez's spot who also cost a combined 5.35M.
The Mets went for a 2 for 1 deal to cut costs as Pagan was to be a FA after 2012.
What happened to Danny Herrera? He pitched 8 BP innings for the Mets in Sept 2011 when he was acquired after pitching 1.2 IP for the Brewers in 2011. He only pitched 6 innings last year @ AAA Buffalo. Was he injured? Where is he now? It appears the Mets got zilch for Krod then also in a cost cutting move in 2011.