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    • Dbacks just got fleeced
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  • 1/24/13
  • alex8686
Can't believe it. Horrific offseason for the Dbacks. They didn't get anything for Upton in that deal. 1 year of Martin Prado for Justin Upton.
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  • 1/24/13
  • saztastic2012

ADacks got fleeced? How many years does Upton have 3? They got Prado who is very good and might well resign but if he does not you can be sure he will get a QO so they will also get a draft pick, Randall Delgado who is a very good young pitcher, Two prospects and it seems another player as it is a five for two trade but not sure who the other player is.

Braves gave up some talent and did not improve for the comming year.

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  • 1/24/13
  • murphstates
Delgado was a top 50 at one time, but it certainly isn't what Seattle offered.
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  • 1/24/13
  • DFAB
what are you talking about? The Dbacks got a good ML player PLUS good prospects...
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  • 1/24/13
  • metrebel

>> Can't believe it. Horrific offseason for the Dbacks. They didn't get anything for Upton in that deal. 1 year of Martin Prado for Justin Upton.

If Delgado puts it together the D'Backs got themselves a top of the rotation pitcher. the Braves did something last year that is very usual with the kid. He didn't have a good season in AAA, but they tired to change his motion. They don't normally do that with a kid that close to the majors. sounds like a Warthen move.

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  • 1/24/13
  • metsfansince89
agreed. no clue what the reasoning for trading upton is. dbacks fans are so mad at kevin towers right now and for good reason. this guy is just clueless.
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  • 1/24/13
  • alex8686
I've never been on high on Delgado. Overhyped prospect. There's a reason Atlanta was willing to include him. Prado is good, but he's 29 now and he's going to be expensive soon. The other two prospects are nothing. Braves did it again.
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  • 1/24/13
  • alex8686
They didn't get a single elite player for a young MVP level talent. Mind boggling how that guy operates. On top of that, he traded Bauer away this offseason too.
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  • 1/24/13
  • metsfansince89
yeah that bauer trade is even worse. dbacks had a real chance to compete this year before all this happened. oh well
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  • 1/24/13
  • alex8686
They essentially traded Justin Upton and Trevor Bauer for Randall Delgado and Didi Gregorious. Mind boggling.
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  • 1/24/13
  • marvelousmarvin
So Murphy/tejada, Flores, Familia/Mejia and one more wouldn't have gotten it done?
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  • 1/24/13
  • brodhi

Braves fan here, MetRebel the guy they changed up the motion with was Teheran..This offseason they've had him revert back to his natural motion and looks like his old self again. Delgado has a chance being a top of the rotation guy but honestly he's more of a 3-4 with not near the upside of Teheran. The other prospects aren't that great..Spruill might end up back of the rotation or a long reliever..Ahmed could be a solid SS but just as easily a utility player. Drury may never make it up into the bigs..

Yeah we all loved Prado but braves had a sense he was looking at 11-12mil a yr and didn't feel he was worth that going into his 30's..He's very good but not a potential superstar just starting to hit his prime. Plus we have him locked up at a good price for 3 yrs..

Lastnight, I went to bed thinking we'd be giving up Teheran, Graham, Gattis, Bethencourt, Ahmed, instead we have this and still retain our best prospects..Yeah Braves did real well in this one.

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  • 1/25/13
  • metrebel

>> Braves fan here, MetRebel the guy they changed up the motion with was Teheran..This offseason they've had him revert back to his natural motion and looks like his old self again. Delgado has a chance being a top of the rotation guy but honestly he's more of a 3-4 with not near the upside of Teheran. The other prospects aren't that great..Spruill might end up back of the rotation or a long reliever..Ahmed could be a solid SS but just as easily a utility player. Drury may never make it up into the bigs..

For some reason I thought they changed Delgado's motion. It's still very rare to see the Braves change a kid's motion when a kid is so close the majors. The Braves develop their kids very well. Something the Mets have to improve on. You never what the other kids will turn out to be, but they were blocked by better prospects anyway.

>> Yeah we all loved Prado but braves had a sense he was looking at 11-12mil a yr and didn't feel he was worth that going into his 30's..He's very good but not a potential superstar just starting to hit his prime. Plus we have him locked up at a good price for 3 yrs..

I think the fact Prado will be FA in 2014 was a big part in why Wren traded him. The D'Backs wanted help on the left side. Wren, rightly so, wasn't trading Simmons so really who was left. I think Prado is a very underrated player.

>> Lastnight, I went to bed thinking we'd be giving up Teheran, Graham, Gattis, Bethencourt, Ahmed, instead we have this and still retain our best prospects..Yeah Braves did real well in this one.

The one kid I would not have trade is Bethencourt. I doubt Brave fans will like it, but I don't think Wren will make a big push to resign McCann. For the right price he would, but good hitting catchers are in demand and get very money on the FA market. He is getting older. there is no guarantee the Bethancourt will make it, but he is the 7th rated catching prospect in MLB and it's nice to have him in the wings. There was an article on ESPN.com about the trade. They asked six or seven MLB executives and one scout, what they thought about the trade. One didn't think it was good. His reasons were mainly about leadership and the K's. Now that Chipper has retired and Prado is gone who will be leaders on the team. It has to be McCann and other vetern players. Freeman and Heyward are too young yet for that role. Your team will K a lot. The rest think it was a very good trade for the Braves, but a couple had one reservation. If Freddie does something that either BJ or Justin don't like, and that brother gets mad and pouts, will the other brother, whose not mad, be mature enough to tell his brother to stop pouting, shut up and play the game. That remains to be seen. I think both brothers have matured a lot since they got into the majors. IMO the Braves got the better of this deal.

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