What do you guys think?
I would say no but i think you can make an argument for him....especially if he plays another 3-5 years in the AL
I think he had a real shot at one point but the injury years of 09 and 2010 def hurt his chances
while i agree that i wouldnt consider him a hall of famer, the called strike 3 thing wouldnt have any effect whatsoever
that moment only lives in infamy in the minds of mets fans ...or are you forgetting that beltran is actually one of the most feared post season hitters of all time? his post season slashline is 363/470/782 (yes thats a .419 iso) for a 1.252 OPS ....how many guys w/ 100+ post season abs can you name w/ numbers even close to that impressive?
really, its about injuries w/ beltran....if he had stayed healthy his whole career, i think that he would have been a no doubter...i mean you have to remember that it is all relative to ones position and, as a gold glove CF, beltran is in elite company w/ the caliber of numbers he put up ...but imo not quite hof worthy though still close
if you don't think its close, then you don't know jack about the quality of CF in the major leagues
it very well could be a no but its not a no by much....there haven't been many CF to put up the career stats that beltran has while playing a solid to very good CF
>> Not yet, i agree he has a shot if he can stay healthy.
He has to stay healthy and have a few more seasons like last year. If he was eligible now, I don't think he gets in.
understandable - though none of the guys you just mentioned were CF's (though musial played some center)
here are a list of the CF in the hall of fame...so the question is, does beltran belong more than any of these guys
obviously i dont want to see comparisons to these guys, who were just no doubter 1st ballot if you vote against them you should have a lobotomy type players:CobbDimaggioMantleMays
But look over the rest of them and compare them to beltran to figure out if he belongs:
Richie AshburnEarl AverillMax CareyEarle CombsLarry DobyHugh DuffyBilly HamiltonLloyd WanerHack WilsonEd RoushDuke SniderKirby PuckettTris speaker
Lifetime .282 hitter with 334 HR and 1243 RBI. Yawn.
Not too many CF in the hall with those numbers. Andre Dawson would be closest direct comparison as he was .279 hitter but had 438 HR and 1591 RBI. Beltran would need to hit another 100 HR or raise his BA by 10 points to have a shot.
If he had a great WS pedigree that would also help.
well he's one of the best post season hitters ever
how many guys have over 100 abs in the post season and an ops over 1200
Yeah and now go compare his career to Beltrans. Didn't think so.
With Howard, he probably will never get in because I doubt he will put up the same numbers as he did earlier in his career. Plus, first baseman have the tough chance making it in to the Hall. Go look at Fed Mcgfriff. He has 493 home-runs, yet he will probably never get in.