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  • 12/18/12
  • 4545_ajd
Hey that rhymes. Ok here is my question if the Mets were to sign Michael Bourne it would cost them the 11th overall pick, If the Blue Jays or Royals sign Bourne it would cost them there approximately 50th overall pick. So would it be allowed for Sandy to make a deal with one of those teams to sign Bourne and then trade him to the Mets right afterwards? manipulation

Edited 12/18/12   by  4545_ajd
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  • 12/18/12
  • anthony888
Me like.
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  • 12/18/12
  • DFAB
I thought that wasn't allowed in baseball...could be wrong though. Might be thinking of something else...interesting idea though.
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  • 12/18/12
  • gomets66
Teams can't trade a newly signed free agent until after June 15 of the following season, unless the player gives written consent.
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  • 12/18/12
  • 4545_ajd

"Teams can't trade a newly signed free agent until after June 15 of the following season, unless the player gives written consent. "

Well Mets are allowed to negotiate with Bourne so I think it would be possible to get his consent to that.

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  • 12/18/12
  • murphstates
If Bourn would consent to it and it could be done I would imagine we'd have to give up a decent prospect to the signing team.
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  • 12/18/12
  • skorpio520

i thought they had to be on your roster a certain amount of time before you could do that.but im not sure.

heres the snag though.its sound in theory.but the problem is if the other team wants to trade bourn like a superstar and take flores,meiijja,etc ,you get the idea.
then you just traded good prospects top protect a player that isnt even chosen or signed yet.

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  • 12/18/12
  • 4545_ajd

Didn't the Mets just trade their rule 5 draft pick, so wouldn't be something similar to that?

Well you would be negotiating the trade before hand, so you would be giving them something worth in between a 11-50th draft pick.

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  • 12/18/12
  • skorpio520

yeah but it was more a whisper in the ear type of thing.and i think the rules are dif with free agents on that.

if not,if it can work,sure, w.t.h.

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  • 12/24/12
  • 4545_ajd

Lol Buster Olney just wrote an article on the same thing I suggested, at least I think so anyone subscribe to insider?

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog/_/name/olney_buster/id/8777314/michael-bourn-kyle-lohse-helped-possible-free-agency-loophole-mlb

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  • 12/24/12
  • Kranesback
One would have to think if that could be done, a lot of teams would already have picked up on that strategy.
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  • 12/24/12
  • thebobymon

Only if the signing team picked up most of the contract.

It is the Wilpons, don't ya know.

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  • 12/24/12
  • skorpio520
like i said if it can be done,even if we have to wait 3 mos or so.why not?
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  • 12/24/12
  • 4545_ajd

It's now on MLB trade rumors, Cleveland is the perfect team to do it because all they will be losing is their 3rd round pick.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/teams-could-seek-loopholes-for-compensation-free-agents.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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  • 12/24/12
  • skorpio520
lol print out the page you said that in so if this becomes the new fad in the mlb you can say "i thought of it first!" lol and have proof
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  • 12/24/12
  • hammr1952
very interesting idea.
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  • 12/24/12
  • skorpio520
so bourn gives written consent before signing.it could work,we can keep our pick and sign bourn.i like !
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  • 12/24/12
  • 4545_ajd

"One would have to think if that could be done, a lot of teams would already have picked up on that strategy. "

Well compensation rules have changed, No matter who signs Bourne the Braves will recieve a compensation pick at the end of the first round, If the Mets sign Bourne the Mets lose the pick but nobody gets it, rather everybody just moves up one spot as if that pick never existed.

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  • 12/24/12
  • ExileMetsFan

"Ok here is my question if the Mets were to sign Michael Bourne it would cost them the 11th overall pick"

Uh, being in the bottom 15, doesn't that mean we don't surrender a pick?

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  • 12/24/12
  • 4545_ajd

"Uh, being in the bottom 15, doesn't that mean we don't surrender a pick?"

Bottom 10 are protected not bottom 15.

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