Neither player is major league proven. D'Arnaud is a career minor leaguer, coming off an injury that cost him half a season. Look what a layoff did to Ike last season. Are we prepared to wait for this guy to test his knee, and regain whatever type of hitting he did in the minors?
Don't like it. I'd rather play RA next season, and see who else pops up in the picture.
Gose. He had one decent month. Batted .265 with a little speed. IMO, he's no better than having Torres in CF
We can do better. No need to throw RA away, because we don't want to pay him.
The Mets cannot win this year.
Looking at their farm system they can't win in the future either.
All they can do is trade what they have which has current value for a chance to contend in a few years. Not to do that would be a huge mistake.
Dickey is going to be 39, has injuries, and is coming off a Cy Young year with his value being as high as it is ever going to be. The Mets HAVE to move him.
If they can get the best catching prospect in the game.....a position that they are incredibly weak at it is a must make move. They also need a few bodies for the outfield and Gose is a huge talent but very raw. He is the kind of player that could break out and make the team that traded him look bad OR do nothing at the major league level because of the hole in his bat. Either way, his speed, arm and potential for power development (he was first coached into being a slap hitter but now is being pushed into more of a line drive/gap hitter) make him attractive to a team like the Mets who really need bodies. They have NOTHING in the outfield.
They would probably trade other established position players if they had any. I mean....other than Neise what do they have? Ike Davis? I wouldn't trade Davis because his value isn't as high as it will be (I believe) and they sorely need what he offers. If Davis is the second half guy who we saw lighting it up, Wright is the first half guy we saw, D'Arnaud turns out to be real, and they can get at least one or two decent outfield......
Never mind. They will stil suc4. But at least they will have a chance of improving. Keep Dickey and they lose him the way they lost Reyes and get nothing OR they spend their money on him and have no catcher or outfield.
Maybe I don't know enough about him. Can you see him in our lineup with Davis and Wright?
What type of hitter is he?
Stanton is exactly what others took PEDs to become.
He's a freakin' monster. 6'5'' 245 pounds of fast twitch fibers and he looks like Mark McGuire on juice. Cannon for an arm and moon shots. 36 hr 86 RBI 290 RBIs last year. Just 23 so he's still developing.
Not a guy you'd want to get into a tussle with. I mean....he's big. He makes Lucas Duda look like Floppy Louie.
>>>"Don't like it. I'd rather play RA next season, and see who else pops up in the picture."<<<
And risk RA having a bad first half, or getting injured... thus killing his trade value. No way I'd do that. To me that would be a foolish risk - a risk a franchise with limited resources and depth can't afford to take with one of the few good chips they have.
>>>"Gose. He had one decent month. Batted .265 with a little speed. IMO, he's no better than having Torres in CF"<<<
I think that is being very reactionary and shortsighted though. Not all talent hits onto the scene like a Trout.
>>>"We can do better. No need to throw RA away, because we don't want to pay him."<<<
I think that is taking a rather narrow view of things. This franchise is in a transition, and in serious need to add quality depth/talent. With limited money to spend, trading a 38 year pitcher, who might not be here when this team is actually ready to win a WS, makes the most sense to me. I doubt it is about not wanting to give Dickey the few extra million they are apart. What Dickey is asking for is fair. The Mets simplly are trying to serve the bigger picture right now - which in my view makes total sense.
that is exactly who i'm referring to.
Stanton looks like he could twist Duda into a pretzel. He's a beast.
"Who did you want in return for Dickey from the Blue Jays? Josh Johnson and Jose Reyes."
No. How about this:
darnaud, syndergaard, davis/Gose, Bonifacio and buck for Dickey, Flores and Thole. Maybe even add McHugh. Dickey is being seriously undervalued in the current round of rumors.
"And risk RA having a bad first half, or getting injured... thus killing his trade value."
We will never improve if we worry more about trade value of our players than about having good players actually playing for this team. Any player can get injured, including those we get in any trade. By targeting prospects for our best players, we will always be a couple of years away.