billy beanes been playing it for the last 10-11 years and the a's have not won .came close once or twice,but still havent won.
also,fielding a team of prospects dont work.this would be a great trade to make but still sign bourn or ross.

mixing mlbs provens with good prospects.that works.

signing wright-good job
trading dickey for d'arnaud-if it goes through,good job depending on what else you had to give up and what else we get back.

now whats next?

Exploiting the market still works if you can find it. Right now the market we're trying to exploit is the win now playoff push team.

I think if we land a top of baseball catching prospect to come up this year or next year we're a lot closer to the San Francisco strategy than people think we are. One more competent outfield bat, and a n effective bullpen and we might shock some people, but that all depends on this D'Arnaud thing panning out, and him coming up for 2013.

Moneyball at 100mil will work

"Moneyball at 100mil will work"

You put the payroll ceiling at $120mil and moneyball is actually just a GM doing his job correctly.

The ENTIRE league needs to be capped at 120m. Then we'd see real trades, along with steady development of players.
Besides not having the ability to buy every decent FA on the market.

Yes, just make it obvious you never actually read the book and have no idea what "moneyball" even is.

If you're going to call something "Moneyball," other than the book, it's a market strategy. If you're talking sabermetrics, like the use of advanced statistics, every team uses them. So, if your point is they haven't been used to win the World Series, you'd be wrong. If your point is they don't guarantee the World Series, you're right, because teams play 162 games and the better team certainly isn't defined by a short 5-7 game series.

How about this Mets baseball team. They must be so debt ridding they can't get out of their own way.
I bet, the value of the team is less than their debt and this is why they can't sell it. No equity left in the franchise.

What a sad state of affairs. The only way this team can win is with a lot of luck and some guys having career years.

Yes, we have the KC Royals in New York.

It has worked for the Rays.

we shall see

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Yeah it's pathetic. A league with no cap in the biggest market and we have to trade or let our players walk due to money. I'm not asking to be the Dodgers or Yankees but we should be able to keep the talent we have and at least be in play for some free agents. You don't deserve to be in the business if you can't handle the responsibility.

I know, how dare I disagree with you and then tell you why.

i know right! glad you agree! ......:)

"Yes, just make it obvious you never actually read the book and have no idea what "moneyball" even is.

If you're going to call something "Moneyball," other than the book, it's a market strategy. If you're talking sabermetrics, like the use of advanced statistics, every team uses them. So, if your point is they haven't been used to win the World Series, you'd be wrong. If your point is they don't guarantee the World Series, you're right, because teams play 162 games and the better team certainly isn't defined by a short 5-7 game series."

^This x 5,000,000, insanely astute post.