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    • Here's WHY we need to trade Dickey.
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  • 12/1/12
  • RomneyandRyan

He is a great pitcher, just won a Cy Young award, and he maybe great next year.

But here's WHY we need to trade him, looking at our roster, our minor league system and the financial troubles Mets are experiencing it is clear that over the next two years we will not contend. So Dickeys Cy Young will not help us in any way, we will still miss the playoffs.

But if we give him to a team that is in a win now mode we can get 2-3 good prospects that will help us 2-3 years from now when all the big money contracts will expire, when Nimmo and Den Dekker will arrive, when Wheeler and Harvey will be ready to be our #1 and #2 starters. That's when we will start seeing the benefits of the trade because players that we will get will be some of the best prospects in our system.

Say we trade Dickey to O's and get Bundy and a good 1B, right there we can solve two problems down the road.

Right now Mets consist of player who would not be starting players on other teams, we can not win anything without a bullpen, also we have two players who played full time who were hitting just a tad over .200. Also looking at minor league rankings Mets have some of the worst players. That is the reason we can not dip into the system and call anyone who can contribute.

If we know that we will not compete for the next two years, why not prepare for 2015 and after that and get players who will be at their best in those years.

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  • 12/1/12
  • metthunder
For who you'd get, Dickey is more valuable to the Mets. You want Bundy, O's are gonna want Wheeler or Harvey. Niese is the pitcher with the trade value. Otherwise you nave a handle on it.
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  • 12/1/12
  • DFAB
we would need to fill at least 2 holes with impact players if we traded Dickey....if we can't get that in return, it makes no sense to trade him.
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  • 12/1/12
  • MetObserver
Considering the % of prospects that turn out to be very good you would need to trade RA for 5-6 players and hope that one is any good at all. Look what the Twins got for Santana, nothing. Trading for prospects is a real <crap-shoot.
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  • 12/1/12
  • RomneyandRyan

Doesn't have to be him.

You have to understand that O's have been so bad for so long and they were finally ready to contend for the first time in years. The GM and the coach would have guaranteed themselves huge deals by getting a Cy Young type of a pitcher who would have helped them to defeat Yankees.

We have done something like that ourselves, remember Scott Kamir and how hyped he was, Isringhousen?

GMs are willing to give up young guys if they know they can get someone who will take them to the next level and i honestly thing R.A. would have been enough to take care of Yankees.

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  • 12/1/12
  • RomneyandRyan

This is one of those things where you have to take a chance. Again i keep pointing out that R.A.'s greatness is useless right now, we have no bullpen, no first baseman so his success will does nothing for a championship run.

If we can get something that will be of value 2 years later once Wilpons will fix their financial situation and once Santana is off the books....................suddenly we have all that money and quality prospects.

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  • 12/1/12
  • johnyringo
Dickey will be great in 2015. We need him for the future.
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  • 12/1/12
  • MetObserver
If you want ML ready players you need to be ready to contend now. Guessing on prospects that will be good in a few years when you need them is the hard part.
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  • 12/1/12
  • RomneyandRyan
If that's the case why not lock him up now until 2020.
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  • 12/1/12
  • 4545_ajd

I don't think there is any reason to think that if the Mets can get a better performance out of their BP and fill even some of the holes in the OF and C, that the Mets can't at least contend for the second WC especially with the Strong starting pitching.

Remember Houston is moving to the AL, so that means that the NL Central teams don't get to pad their records against them any longer, so 2nd WC spot could only take at 83-87 wins.


Edited 12/1/12   by  4545_ajd
Edited 12/1/12   by  4545_ajd
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  • 12/1/12
  • edmet
i agree keep niese. trade dickey but only for a quality package. lets not forget dillon gee, i like him, but wheeler will take his rotation spot by august. if all toronto is offering is arenciba, how about gee and some secondary prospects for arenciba and rajai davis>that would be a good deal for us. i think gee is developing into a fine midrotation starter, but he doesnt have the upside of harvey, wheeler, niese.
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  • 12/1/12
  • AdrianMonk

I disagree with the notion that anything Dickey does for us in the near future is of no value if we don't make the playoffs. The playoffs are nice, but all but one team ends up a disappointed loser. We watch games from April-September as well as in October, and their outcome matters to us at the time. As Met fans, we should learn to enjoy baseball for what it is, and our stars for what they are, and not obsess about whether we'll be playing a wildcard game on some cold rainy night in the Fall.
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  • 12/1/12
  • eastvisitr
The Mets definitely have a rotation thats worthy of playoff contention if Dickey is re-signed and Niese, Harvey, and Wheeler all lerform up to their potential. They're in a tough division though with 3 other legitimate contenders. We need a whole outfield too and there really isn't much when you factor in the Mets likely unwillingness to pay solid money for players. We would need two ho hum signings or trades to pay off huge for us, like Reddick in Oakland this past year.
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