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    • Omar was a great GM in the fact he made these coupons spend
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  • 7/30/12
  • kaztast1c

The "coupons" we always willing to spend. Just check where the Mets ranked in payroll while we were trying to compete every year and falling one stinking game short.

The "coupons" are now trying to get the next "core" up here. We started before with Wright, Reyes, and Beltran and added pieces around those three. We didn't spend until we knew those three would be here for a few years. Once we see what the new core will be, you can expect the "coupons" to put the Mets payroll back where it was.

What you won't see them do is repeat the early 90's. They are not going to go out and get us the next "worst team money can buy". It seems to me they are letting Sandy run with his plan.

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  • 7/30/12
  • gomets66
maybe lucky for omar mets had madoff money at the time.
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  • 7/30/12
  • stearnsy12

he would have been a great GM if he bought us a WS championship like Cashman did for the Yanks....instead he wasted a ton of money and left our minor league system bare..

and now people are actually asking how come Sandy hasn't restored the minor league system in a year and a half after 6 years of Omar's careful attention to player development

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  • 7/30/12
  • KLake409
The Wilpons have always spent lots of money,
they had the #2 Payroll in baseball in 2003 and 2009 both seasons were disasters,
and with huge money spent on guys like Bay and Santana and having
one be a total bust and the other becoming injury prone,
and then spending big money on K-Rod and having him get arrested for punching his Father-in-Law, and spending so much on Ollie Perez ($39M) and getting only 3 wins in 2 years from him,
they also spent a lot of money on Putz and so he su,cked in 2009 and now is lights out for the D-Backs,
so why would you expect the Wilpons to keep throwing huge money at players
when it hasn't worked for them so many times,
like they always say the definition of insanity is doing the same things
that never worked in the past over and over again and expecting different results.
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  • 7/30/12
  • stearnsy12

and don't forget the incredibly baseball savvy decisions to re-up Jose Valentin and Elduque,for signing Mota to a 2 year deal AFTER he was suspended for 50 games the upcoming season for PEDS....Shawn Green....Moises Alou,Gary Sheffield....the list goes on and on

amazing the number of players signed or extended by Omar that were out of baseball completely by the time their contract with the Mets was up

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  • 7/30/12
  • gomets66
many of them were said to be friends of omar. probably didnt hurt.
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  • 7/30/12
  • kaztast1c

I will never fault Omar for the second year of Alou either. He was coming off a great season where he had just set the Mets hitting streak record. That kind of bat was needed.

Again...only hindsight makes it a bad signing since injuries occured. At the moment the move was made....it was a good one.

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  • 7/30/12
  • JamesHetfi3ld

'It seems to me they are letting Sandy run with his plan.'

No, his plan is to improve the team. When literally every move is 'too expensive' (including spending an extra 60K for the second overall pick you drafted) I'm certain he is not letting Sandy run with his plan.

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  • 7/30/12
  • stearnsy12

the guy was close to 38 or 39 his first season with us and was an injury filled season,played in only 87 games....

so Omar gives him 8 million to come back and try again

fool me once,shame on you,fool me twice,shame on me....Omar got burned so often trying to milk one more year out of has beens

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  • 7/30/12
  • kaztast1c

And of those 87 games he hit is 41 straight.

A gamble? yes

Did he lose? yes

Was it a necessary gamble since we needed that kind of bat deparately since it was looking like Delgado may have been finished? Yes

Like I said...that is one move I wont kill him for. Ollie? Yes 4 years for Castillo? Yes Putz with no medical check? Yes Shawn Green? heck yes

Alou? nope

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  • 7/30/12
  • gomets66
moises was an excellent hitter. if not for all the injuries through his career, probably a HOF.
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  • 7/30/12
  • kaztast1c
Yup.
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  • 7/30/12
  • lllfxlll
He's the reason why the Wilpons won't spend.
Some people here need to hop off this guys d--- now.
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  • 7/30/12
  • HoneyBadger58

Well, you lost all crediblity with that statement.

I can go out and drop millions of dollars on garbage, will that make me a good GM?

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  • 7/30/12
  • HoneyBadger58

He's the reason why the Wilpons won't spend.
Some people here need to hop off this guys d--- now.

>I SERIOUSLY don't get all the Omar love now.<

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  • 7/30/12
  • lllfxlll
Me and you both! Horrible GM.
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  • 7/30/12
  • RomneyandRyan

Most in here will NEVER admit the fact that up until last year we had a HUGE payroll and got nowhere. Even now payroll is 93 Million while Braves payroll is 83 Mil, Nationals 81 Mil, A's 55 Mil, Pirates 63 Mil, somehow they are contending and we are not.

Moneys is never the issue and is never the solution.

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  • 7/30/12
  • metrebel

>> Most in here will NEVER admit the fact that up until last year we had a HUGE payroll and got nowhere. Even now payroll is 93 Million while Braves payroll is 83 Mil, Nationals 81 Mil, A's 55 Mil, Pirates 63 Mil, somehow they are contending and we are not.

Very true. The Mets had a huge payroll and what do they have to show for it. The difference between the teams you mentioned and the Mets is very good young cheep talent. One thing Omar did leave is a farm system the is not deep and has very few high ceiling kids. Because a GM gets an onwer to spend money doesn't make him a great GM.

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