25th Kansas City - 22,996
26th Seattle - 22,493
27th Houston - 21,283
28th CLEVELAND - 20,677
29th Oakland - 20,648
30th Tampa Bay - 20,572

http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

We did it!

That should increase on the next home stand for Cleveland with the Yankees coming to town.

Hooray! Something to cheer about. Can't say for sure, but my guess is that reason Cleveland is no longer last in home attendance is b/c they acquired Big U, who doubtless is huge fan draw. People want to witness first-hand how truly awful he is.

All right! hey where is Chris Perez's tweet about how the fans of Cleveland answered his call for more people to show up for a winning.....oh wait.....a 3rd (boarder line 4th) place team!

The Indians have reached that spot which they have a complete lock on - baseball purgatory with ~50 games to go.

The team is out. The season is over. The fans know it's over. For us, do we even care if they win or lose anymore? Not just a shot at the Indians, but Cleveland sports in general.

They simply exist and linger.

There is literally no hope in Cleveland sports right now - it's absolutely awful.

Do we care if they win or lose? Not really since they are 10 games back and even if they play a little above .500 they still won't win anything and this team is not going to go on any kind of big winning streak to get back in the race for the division. They have reached the point of no return for another season. And with the Yankees coming to town on the next home stand it can only get worse.

In fairness though, Pomerainz and White aren't exactly Cy Young winners either over in Colorado, and in fact you can even make a case in saying neither one is ready to contribute on a Major League team full time. Despite yesterday's stinker, Big U has 12 QS this season, which means 50% he keeps his team in the game...LOL

I think Paul Rigdon had the same QS %.

You might be right, but I still believe the trade was a calculated risk last season. I mean, at LEAST Chris tried to make our team better, and I don't care what he has shown, Ubaldo has the arm, his mental is questionable. Not in Roberto Hernandez territory, but it's still frustrating. The two pitchers we gave up could easily be the next Paul Wilson and Bill Pulsipher.

This is first full campaign for Pomeranz and White. My money says both of them will be in bigs, and performing well (meaning overall winning records) long after Big U washes out and becomes trivia question. Mark my words: Another shoot-yourself-in-trade finessed by Antonnitwit. Do you think he wears a dunce cap while seated at his desk? Not necessary, as everyone in baseball knows he has rocks for brains.

So how many pitchers have put together fine seasons for Colorado? Ubaldo was 15-1 in the 1st half back in 2010, there IS talent there, problem is how do they get him to show it? But perhaps White and Pomerainz have fine careers, but there is more than a good chance they won't. You're saying that you'd rather take a chance on a prospect? Rip Antonelli all you want this season, because the biggest mistake he made was NOT brining in Josh Willingham when he was at the palm of our hands. Putting him in the cleanup spot alone would have helped this offense the entire season. But last time I checked Pomerainz was 1-7, and White wasnt much better. They can just as easily become the Bill Pullsipher and Paul Wilson, do you remember who they were?

Name of Pulsipher rings faint bell, Wilson does not. Who were they and what team(s) play for?

Back in 1995, the Mets had a trio of prospects that were ready to start. They were very high on them, all 3 on top prospect list, and when they all started their MLB careers, either they had awful seasons, due to pressure or injuries affected them. Jason Isringhausen was the other starter, and despite his injuries, he turned himself into becoming a reliable reliever. He was the only one of the 3 to have any substantial MLB career. The point is prosepcts are nice and all, but at the end of the day, that is all they are....just prospects. Until they prove they can be durable, and not only stay in MLB, but produce too. There is a greater chance that either both or one of them will fail. It's very rare to have both players become bonafide MLB aces. And now, people are already saying Alex White should be converted to a reliever.

Going back to 2011, you MAKE that deal. The only thing that was probably dumb on Antonelli's part was dealing both of them, or giving Colorado 4 prospects, because now there more than likely wasn't a deal that Colorado had talked with Boston about, although with their current rotation too, they could use him too, since he already has a MLB career, that had shown he can win. His biggest problem is his own head, but I still would have traded one of those 2 prospects for Ubaldo, even now.

I look at his losses and his ERA and they mean more to me then some of the newer stats like QS. So Jimenez has 24 starts and half of them are quality starts, yeah that is about what you would expect out of a #4 starter on a less then .500 team. lol

I am surprised Dolan hasn't ripped off Antonetti's head for that trade because Jimenez is costing $4.2M and to keep him next year, which I wouldn't even think about, he will cost $5.75M if they pick up the option, for what good he has done since putting on an Indians uniform it would have been cheaper to just keep Pomeranz and White and let them work out any problems they might have in Cleveland, cheaper and for a longer time. It isn't like Antonetti helped bring a championship to Cleveland with that trade he just cleared out the only guys in the Minors that someone might want for someone better. Great he brought in what he thought, shows just how much he knows, was an ACE and got a #4 to try to fix the rotation but then lets Willingham sign with the Twins when we all knew the offense was in trouble with guys like Duncan and Cunningham for left field in 2012. That right there wipes out any kind of plus Antonetti could get in that Jimenez trade. It is like well I made one trade so I am good now I can sit back and not do anything else this team is set. He is the same kind of putz as Shapiro.

i find it amazing that we passed anybody with the way the team has been playing since the all star break especially oakland they have been playing great you would think there fans would be showing up.

I honestly looked forward to/am looking forward to the battles for the backup spots for the Browns more than watching the Indians. I pretty much assume they are going to lose when anyone but Masterson or McAllister pitch, so i don't even bother.

If you go through some of his bad games though, part of it is he breezed through 5 innings, but exploded in the 6th inning, or give up 4 runs in 6 innings, it's just one of those things though. He's either done alright, or he's bombed. We never know which Ubaldo will show up, and with that arm, it's ashame.

I know it's very easy to pick on the FO for last year's trade last season, because of what happened this season, but I refuse to do it. I would do it again, if the Indians were in position to contend, but I would have done it a bit differently. I would have put my foot down, and just gave them 3 prospects, and keep one of them. We have seen this season teams not unload on much to get a bonafide player to help them out, but Chris was the rookie GM, so he gave in and not been in control of this.

However, this offseason I will dog him down as much as I can, because bottom line is he fumbled the ball. Even at the trade deadline, he did nothing, and you never know a move could have uplifted this team and they never would have had an 11 game losing streak. But unfortunately, we will never know.

Yeah but a guy you trade 4 players for who is supposed to be an ACE or at least a good #2 doesn't implode once he gets to the 6th inning. I'd like to know what they could get for Jimenez and Santana in a trade. Heck make it a blockbuster and throw in Choo and Perez too and get a third team involved then maybe they can get some value out of these guys "for the future".....