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    • Lerner FIRES Kokonis
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  • Nov-2
  • indiansfan787

According the the TV station WKYC in Cleveland, George Kokonis is out as general manager of the Browns.

Owner Randy Lerner wanted heads to roll with the 1-7 Browns entering a Week 9 bye, so Kokonis and director of football operations Erin O'Brien were ousted rather than head coach Eric Mangini. Mangini is calling all the shots anyway. Kokonis had scarcely been heard from since his hire in January. He was a respected pro scouting director in Baltimore before taking the Cleveland GM position and figures to resurface elsewhere soon.

Source: WKYC Cleveland

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  • Nov-2
  • Vaard
Wow,that sends a message to everyone else under contract for the browns.You can spend the holidays with your families and i'll pay you not to work for my team.
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  • Nov-2
  • indians2006

What?? Are you serious?

What has this guy done? I have never seen the guy do an interview before!! The guy was actually hired after Mangenious which I never heard of before?! Don't you usually hire a GM before you hire a coach, and then the GM hires his staff??

That tells me that Mangini(and hopefully the OC as well) is next to go if things don't turn around real quick, and the only reason he wasn't fired was because it's very hard to replace a coach in the middle of the season. I knew hiring Mangenious was a mistake. And what was really strange about hiring him was he was hired before anyone else?!?!

Although my question is, how are these firings going to change on how this team is playing right now?? It's Mangenious and his lousy pickups, crappy coaching (and coaching staff), and "big head" is why this team stinks so bad!!!

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  • Nov-3
  • wartwart2
They fired the wrong guys. Mangini and the O.C. should have been the first to go. Kokonis hasn't called any plays that I know of. I guess Mangini is THE BOSS of the Browns. What the "H" is Lerner thinking? I thought the Indians were in bad shape. The Browns MAY be in worse shape than the Indians.
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  • Nov-3
  • Steve11

last year they fired a belichick coordinator and a ravens personnel manager and they hired...

...a belichick coordinator and a ravens personnel manager

no wonder we never get any better.

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  • Nov-3
  • Vaard
Makes you wonder who lerner has as advisors that he listens to...larry,moe and curly?
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  • Nov-3
  • indians2006
Apparently Mangenius threw Kokonis "under the bus". Mangenious literally hired Kokonis, so he fired him as well, although it just went through a median owner Lerner. Each year Lerner shows his incompetance in regards to owning a football team. It seems Lerner and Dolan have at least one thing in common when it comes to owning a professional sports organization, they both are CLUELESS!!
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  • Nov-3
  • xforemanjoe

GM Kokinis 'no longer actively involved' with Browns
Nov. 2, 2009
CBSSports.com wire reports


BEREA, Ohio -- The Cleveland Browns invisible general manager has disappeared.

George Kokinis, the hand-picked GM of first-year coach Eric Mangini who was rarely seen or heard in Cleveland, left the team Monday under unexplained circumstances after less than one year on the job.

After reports surfaced that Kokinis was fired, the team issued an awkwardly worded statement saying Kokinis "is no longer actively involved with the organization." The Browns also denied reports that Kokinis was escorted from team headquarters.

Kokinis' apparent ouster came one day after Browns owner Randy Lerner said he wanted to hire a "strong, credible, serious" football adviser to help run his struggling 1-7 team. Kokinis was hired on Jan. 23, two weeks after the Browns named Mangini as their fourth coach since 1999.

But the Mangini-Kokinis team has been broken up, forcing Lerner to look quickly for help. One possibility could be Ernie Accorsi, who was Cleveland's GM from 1985-92, when the Browns went to three AFC title games with Bernie Kosar at quarterback.

Kosar was recently brought in by Lerner to serve in an unspecified consulting role. Accorsi could take over the vacant GM position and serve as a mentor until Kosar is ready. Accorsi was the New York Giants' GM for nine years before retiring after the 2006 season. His biggest move was a trade with San Diego for quarterback Eli Manning.

Mangini said he would welcome anyone who could help the Browns get better.

"If you can add quality people that can help you get better, then you do that," he said. "You're always searching for those opportunities."

The Browns said they would withhold further comment of Kokinis' situation "in the interest of protecting the parties involved."

Citing unnamed team and league sources, ESPN.com reported that Kokinis refused to resign when pressed by Lerner, who then persisted in seeking a dismissal "for cause." The report said the team's security and legal department were reviewing phone records to build its case against Kokinis.

Before coming to Cleveland, Kokinis spent 13 years with Baltimore, the past six seasons as the Ravens' director of pro personnel. He had little or no authority with the Browns as Mangini, who was fired by the New York Jets after last season, has enjoyed full control over football operations.

Kokinis' strange departure is the latest twist for the Browns, the closest thing the NFL has to a daily soap opera.

Already in Mangini's first year in Cleveland, the Browns have dealt with a lengthy list of on- and off-the-field circumstances.

Mangini was criticized for making his rookies take a 10-hour bus ride to his football camp in Connecticut and later for fining one of his players $1,701 for not paying for a $3 bottle of water during a hotel stay. There's been the ongoing quarterback saga involving Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn, the trade of wide receiver Braylon Edwards two days after he allegedly punched a friend of NBA star LeBron James, a flu outbreak that hit 12 players, cornerback Eric Wright's car accident and other situations.

And of course, there has been the losing, something the Mangini-Kokinis team was supposed to fix.

Kokinis essentially was hand-picked by Mangini to be his GM. The two worked together under former Browns coach Bill Belichick in the 1990s.

Kokinis attended Cleveland's 30-6 loss in Chicago on Sunday. He sat in the press box and had little interaction with anyone, which has been his customary mode of operation since the day he joined the Browns. Kokinis had not formally spoken to Cleveland media members since draft day in April.

He was usually on the field during training camp practices, but Kokinis never held court with reporters like his predecessor, Phil Savage, routinely did for four years. When the Browns traded Edwards to the Jets last month, it was Mangini and not Kokinis who explained Cleveland's decision to deal one of its only stars.

And now Kokinis has left, gone without a word.

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  • Nov-3
  • softtail
Lerner has made a laughing stock of a once proud franchise, maybe he should change the team name from The Cleveland Browns to one thats more suitable like Hmmmm!------- I got it THE CLEVELAND SLOW LERNERS. lol
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  • Nov-3
  • xforemanjoe

That sounds like it means too much like reality, THE CLEVELAND SLOW LERNERS. lol It seems like this year they are an embarrassment to performers all around the world if they are called the Cleveland Clowns, they can't even be classified as decent clowns.....
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  • Nov-3
  • wartwart2
Mangini SHOULD be next, but who are we going to get now? This is going to be a very long year. HOPEFULLY next year will be better. Can it get any worse?
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  • Nov-3
  • oldbob
I'm not sure if it can can much worse, but it sure could take some time to get better. People ask me how we beat Buffalo, I tell them we didn't beat Buffalo they beat themselves. The NFL is a QB league and we do not have a QB that is worth a bag of beans. But we also have so many other weakness that only time will heal. That said I'm not sold on Mangini either.
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  • Nov-3
  • Vaard
Maybe this is what happens when you make millionaires run laps and do push up.....lol
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  • Nov-4
  • zenindian

"It seems Lerner and Dolan have at least one thing in common when it comes to owning a professional sports organization, they both are CLUELESS!!"

I will say this, at least Dolan has the stones to do interviews. Lerner won't even let you record his voice.

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