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  • Jun-20
  • dionysusal

Saturday, June 20, 2009
Who Owes the National Debt?
www.fskrealityguide.blogspot.com/2009/06/who-owes-national-debt.html

I saw President Obama give a speech, and noticed another new evil fnord. President Obama said "Our children will have a huge burden of repaying the national debt."

With fiat debt-based money, the national debt is an accounting fiction. Congress could, if they wanted, print enough new money to pay off the national debt. Congress can always roll over the national debt by printing more and more Treasury Bonds.

Financial industry insiders will always buy Treasury debt. The banksters borrow at the Fed Funds Rate and buy Treasury debt, profiting from the spread. For example, the Fed Funds Rate is currently 0%-0.25%, and the yield on longer-term Treasury debt is around 3%-4%. The spread is riskless arbitrage profit for the banksters. This trade is only available to insiders who may borrow at the Fed Funds Rate. A bank may use leverage of 100x or more when buying Treasury debt, making this trade very profitable.

The money/wealth collected in income taxes and spent on "interest payments on the national debt" doesn't vanish into thin air. It winds up in the pockets of the banksters. The banksters profit from their highly leveraged investment in Treasury debt. The banksters profit from their perk of printing and spending brand new money. Foreign central banks, such as China, are not the beneficiary of these interest payments. They earn a negative real interest rate on their unleveraged investment in Treasury debt. Foreign central banks that hold Treasury debt lose their purchasing power due to inflation.

"Our children will be forced to repay the national debt." is an evil fnord. When faced with this statement, many people will think "HAHAHA!! **** our children!! We're getting stuff now and they're getting the bill! It suc.ks to be them!"

The reality is that the cost of deficit spending is immediately paid as new money is issued. Everyone experiences immediate inflation to compensate for deficit spending. If there is $1T of deficit spending, then everyone currently holding dollars immediately experiences $1T of inflation. The loss of purchasing power by people currently holding dollars matches the amount of deficit spending by the Federal government. People don't notice, because money supply inflation does not lead to uniform and immediate price inflation. Biased economic statistics like the CPI provide the illusion that inflation is lower than it really is.

The cost of the national debt is not deferred to the future. It is paid immediately as inflation.

The national debt is greater than the amount of money in circulation. According to this page, M2 is currently $8.4T. The national debt is over $11T. No mainstream economist/comedian points out the obvious contradiction. The Federal government is in debt by more money than actually exists! Even if the income tax were raised to 100% and all circulating dollars were collected as taxes, then the national debt still cannot be repaid.

The reason for this contradiction is the Compound Interest Paradox. When the Federal Reserve "monetizes the debt", it only creates the principal and not the interest payments. This practically guarantees that, over time, the national debt will be greater than the money supply. The scam doesn't collapse, because the Federal government can keep issuing new Treasury debt to refinance and roll over the debt. The financial industry can keep issuing more and more loans, to ensure that previous borrowers can repay their loans. The financial industry reaps seignorage profit, as they print and spend brand new money.

That's the reason it was necessary to bail out the financial industry. Suppose all the "too big to fail" banks go bankrupt, and they no longer issue new loans. All currently existing loans would still be due, but no new money would be printed. This would cause the dollar to collapse in hyperdeflation. The true solution, "Reform a corrupt monetary system!", is never discussed in the mainstream media. Instead, bailouts to insiders keep the scam going.

The scam will continue until the cattle say "**** this! I'm not using slave points as money anymore! I'm using gold and silver!" Remember that in order to boycott the Federal Reserve you must also boycott the income tax, because the IRS demands that the income tax be paid in the form of Federal Reserve Notes. According to the IRS bureaucrats, all economic activity in the USA is subject to the income tax.

Private debt is estimated to be $50T or more, which is *MUCH* greater than the money supply. Again, this is due to the Compound Interest Paradox. The total amount of debt is far greater than the total money supply. This makes everyone the slaves of the banksters. New money is only created when a bank issues a loan. New loans must continually be issued so that old loans can be repaid.

(Under certain circumstances the national debt can decrease. This only occurs if the private sector takes out a lot of new debt. This new money can then be collected as income taxes. The national debt can be partially repaid, but only if people other than the government take on a lot of new debt. During a recession/depression, deficit spending by the Federal government is needed to keep the money supply up. This guarantees that the national debt will increase over time. Also, politicians cannot resist the temptation to print and spend new money. The Federal government is the only entity that can have unlimited dollar-denominated debt without being bankrupted. The Federal government is the issuer for dollars, and cannot be bankrupted as long as all of its debts are dollar-denominated and people are forced at gunpoint to use Federal Reserve Notes as money.)

When a comedian says "Our children will be stuck paying the national debt!", that is an evil fnord. The cost of Federal deficit spending is not deferred to the future. Everyone pays the cost immediately in the form of money supply inflation.

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  • Jun-20
  • dionysusal
Nobody has a comment for this most important of posts? I must say, I'm disappointed, especially after the "Macroeconomics" thread. Oh well-- not that it matters.
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  • Jun-21
  • dionysusal

Friday, June 5, 2009
What is the US Government's Credit Rating?
www.fskrealityguide.blogspot.com/2009/06/what-is-us-governments-credit-rating.html

I was watching the Communism Channel, and the comedians were saying "Due to increasing national debt, the US Federal government may lose its AAA credit rating. Great Britain is similarly under review for a downgrade."

In a related story, Treasury Secretary Geithner was speaking to a bunch of Chinese students. He said "The US dollar is strong and an investment in Treasury debt is safe!" The Chinese students laughed at him. It's disappointing that the comedians/journalists in the USA don't have a similar reaction. Even though there's been a lot of hype about "The Chinese State censors information on the Tienanmen Square protest!", the Chinese State does not censor information on "The US dollar and US Treasury debt is a bad investment!" You'll never hear a comedian on the Communism Channel say "Inflation is theft! If you invest in Treasury bonds you're guaranteed to get ripped off by inflation!"

The fallacy is that all of the US Federal government's debt is in US dollars. The US government is the issuer for dollars, and can never be bankrupted as long as all of its debts are in dollars *AND* people in the USA are forced at gunpoint to use slave points instead of real money.

When I say "The US government is the issuer for dollars.", that's slightly inaccurate. Congress has delegated its money printing power to the Federal Reserve and financial industry. However, Congress does have the power to print new Treasury bonds. These Treasury bonds are then sold primarily to financial industry insiders, who then sell approximately 10% of them back to the Federal Reserve, and then via 10:1 reserve ratio fractional reserve banking create the money required to buy the remaining 90%.

Congress can always print new Treasury bonds to increase the national debt. Financial industry insiders will always buy these bonds, at a price greater than the expected Fed Funds Rate over the life of the bond. For example, if the Fed Funds Rate is expected to average 1% over the next year, then the banksters will buy a 1 year Treasury Note for slightly more than 1%. Banks are allowed to use very high leverage ratios when investing in Treasury debt. For example, if leverage ratios are 100x for Treasury debt, and the 1 year Treasury Note yields 1.2%, then the banksters make a guaranteed riskless profit of 20%, when they make a 100:1 leveraged investment in Treasury debt, borrowing at the Fed Funds Rate.

Some Treasury debt is sold to individuals/suc.kers and foreign central banks. These people hold an unleveraged long investment in Treasury debt. Their return is far less than true inflation, which is 10%-30%+ per year, depending on what measure of inflation you use.

Because the Federal Reserve keeps the Fed Funds Rate much less than true inflation, the yield on Treasury debt will also be much less than true inflation. Negative real interest rates cause an investment in Treasury debt to lose to inflation over time.

At any time, Congress could repeal or amend the Federal Reserve law, but the Federal Reserve is politically untouchable. With the ability to literally print new money, financial industry insiders make sure they spend a lot on lobbying. Financial industry insiders receive a massive State subsidy, paid by everyone else as inflation; they can always profitably lobby to block reform. For this reason, if you're convinced of the evil of the Federal Reserve, your only option is to boycott the Federal Reserve and income tax, and to use gold or silver or barter instead of slave points.

The income tax prevents slaves living in the USA from boycotting the US dollar. According to IRS State enforcers, all economic activity is subject to taxation, even if you use barter. Legally, it is impossible to boycott the Federal Reserve, because you must pay income taxes whenever you work. The IRS only accepts Federal Reserve slave points in exchange for permission to work.

As long as the State has the power to use violence to force people to pay income taxes, the US government cannot be bankrupted. People cannot boycott the US dollar and pay income taxes at the same time. Some State economists cryptically say "The US dollar is not backed by gold. The US dollar is backed by the Federal government's taxation power." What that literally means is "The income tax prevents people from boycotting the US dollar and using real money instead." The comment "The US dollar is backed by the State's taxation power." indicates that the pro-State troll economists are vaguely aware of the scam, but unable to explicitly say so.

Of course, if there were runaway hyperinflation, then there are some people living in the USA who would say "**** this!" and start using real money instead. If things got that bad, then the government and taxation system would collapse. During hyperinflation, the income tax would not be sufficient disincentive against using real money. Income tax need not be paid immediately, so hyperinflation would make the income tax burden on barter transactions negligibile. However, inflation might need to get as high as 100%-500%+ per year, before people will start to abandon the dollar.

If all the central banks outside the USA simultaneously sold their dollars, and people outside the USA refused to accept dollars, then all those dollars would find their way back to the USA. This would cause a massive inflation spike in the USA, but it might not be so bad to completely wreck the economic and political system.

State enforcers have some tricks up their sleeve, during times of hyperinflation. They can issue a new fiat paper money, convertible at a rate of 10^15:1 or whatever with the old hyperinflationary paper money. This is accompanied by mainstream media propaganda "The economy is getting better!" Surprisingly, this sometimes works! After getting burned by hyperinflation, people are all too gullible to accept a new fiat paper money printed in a different font and color!

All countries everywhere have a corrupt fiat monetary system. I haven't checked, but I'm pretty sure that every country also has a debt-based monetary system; I know of no country that uses credit-based fiat money instead of debt-based fiat money. With credit-based fiat money, new money is directly spent into circulation by the government, rather than borrowed from a central bank as occurs in the USA and most/all "modern" industrialized countries.

Other countries don't abandon the dollar because their fiat money is just as worthless as the US dollar. From the point of view of the parasites controlling other countries, it's better for them to support the US dollar, than risk the collapse of the scam and the gravy train. Other countries' leaders don't say "The US dollar is worthless paper!", because that would also bring up the issue "Isn't our fiat paper also worthless?"

If you invest in a money market account, or in Treasury debt, or in corporate bonds, then you are making a donation to the Sta...[Message truncated]

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  • Jun-21
  • no1illini

''inancial industry insiders will always buy Treasury debt. The banksters borrow at the Fed Funds Rate and buy Treasury debt, profiting from the spread. For example, the Fed Funds Rate is currently 0%-0.25%,''

this statement is not accurate. the federal funds rate is the rate that banks charge each other, typically overnite loans. banks that keep an excess of reserve funds in the fed reserve can loan these excess funds out to other banks that may be short of their required amount, the rate charged is determined by the market, though th fed does try to control this number, it can not do so precisely.

what you are refering to is called the discount rate, which is the rate the fed charges banks for short term loans from the fed. we say these loans are made from the discount window. it is currently in the 0 to .25 range. this type of lending is not used for buying treasury bonds, at least I have not heard of it ever used this way. the fed frowns on banks that often go to the discount window as it may be a sign of poor management. these loans or temporary in nature and thus would not be a good source to get funds for treasury notes by that reason. one more point, when a bank gets a loan for the discount window they have to put up collateral in return that exceeds the value of the loan. so another reason again why banks can't use the fed as a source of 'free' money.

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  • Jun-21
  • greencoat
Please note: There are no replies from the big 12 libbie posters on this thread. Beyond their mental capacities to grasp the content. Good job by you guys. We have this thread all to ourselves!
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  • Jun-21
  • bigred93
when the economy becomes inflated the value of the american dollar goes down,so if you print more money it will continue to go down,so why keep printing more?if the debt is $11T then printing $11T dollars(obviously it wont be that much)that are all worth 5C is pointless
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  • Jun-21
  • kivo
Not to mention that the banksters are all well known zionists, i.e. moneychangers.
Edited Jun-21   by  kivo
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