SS Juan Segura and 2 AA pitchers.

Really traded for some bums? Hes atleast worth Trout... cmon :D

It's Jean Segura not Juan.

<http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=segura001jea

Jean Segura....

This is a good trade, Segura is a top 50 prospect, can hit and plays SS. reminds me a bit of Rickie Weeks.

Jean segura is going to be really good! one of the Brewers weakest positions! Shortstop! awesome!

I would imagine at least one of the AA pitchers would be either John Hellweg or Ariel Pena.

Sounds like both.

This wasn't what I expected, but I like it. Gives us much needed potential at short and some pitchers to give us hope in that area as well. Who are the pitchers, and how highly touted are they?

I don't follow the minors enough to know.

Yeah, it looks that way. Which would make this a pretty decent trade. The pitchers won't help next year, but the year after.

I wonder if they're building for 2014. If so, Hart will probably be available.

John Hellweg - 6'9" RPH

Typically, a pitcher moves from the rotation to the bullpen and takes off. For Hellweg, it was just the opposite. The tall, lanky right-hander had put up good strikeout rates as a reliever, but had really struggled throwing strikes consistently. When he was really scuffling in 2011 out of the bullpen, he moved into a starting role and posted a 2.12 ERA in 14 starts. He still got more than enough swings and misses with his plus fastball and good breaking stuff. If the changeup improves along with his command, he has the makings of a frontline starter.

Ariel Pena - 6'3" RPH

The 2011 season showed how good Pena can be as well as what’s standing in his way, all at the same time. He led the Angels system and finished second in the California League in strikeouts, but he also finished second in the circuit in walks. With a plus fastball that touches the upper 90s and a nasty plus slider, he can be nearly impossible to hit. But his command has kept him from having prolonged success, with a future in the bullpen a possibility. The jump up to Double-A could be a very big test for him.

Johnny Hellweg and Ariel Pena are the reported prospects. I'll have to look them up. I know nothing about any of these guys.

Loving this trade!

Pena has been pitching very well at AA. 2.99ERA. 111K/42BB in 114 IP.

Hellweg, not so much. 3.38 ERA, but 88K/60BB in 119 IP.

Hellweg = Kam Loe 2.0


























Just kidding, I really know nothing about him. But he is really tall.

Hellweg's K rate is down but so is his BB rate.

Pena seems a better bet but Hellweg has a lot of potential.

Basically, Escobar, Cain, Jeffress & Odorizzi netted 1 1/2 year of Greinke, a NLCS and we still get our SS of the future. Odorizzi rates higher than Pena or Hellweg but the results out of Zack far outweigh that.

2012 didn't turn out how we wanted but I think Doug did well here.

Yeah, trading for Greinke was still worth it despite what some people on Bill Michael's facebook page said. I still think that team was good enough to win a World Series last year they just didn't get it done when it counted and the Cards did.

Initial reax: #angels got great deal, hellweg and pena could be relievers. Scout: Hellweg, 6-9, needs to repeat delivery.

In a 5 or 7 game series in baseball, anything can happen.

The Brewers went for it in 2011 and it paid off. This is the life of a small market club. It won't sit well with the Joe Beer Guts or fairweather fans but you have to build from within and then use your pieces to strike when you feel you can contend. Have to keep rebuilding depth