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    • the day american business fought back
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  • 8/6/12
  • baggio4

i thought this was a very good article on how people are beginning to wake up to just how anti-business this current administration is.

here is the link followed by a couple of interesting points

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/06/america-and-didnt-build-that-revolution/

"As the Heritage Foundation has recently noted, in his first three years in office President Obama imposed some 106 major regulations on American businesses, compared to 28 under George W. Bush. Another 144 are in the pipeline waiting to be unleashed, if Obama is reelected in November.
According to the World Bank, the cost of starting a business in the United States has doubled since 2007, and in “ease of starting a business” we’ve dropped from third in the world in 2007 to thirteenth."

"We’ve seen it in the latest Gallup polls, which show 63% of Americans see Mitt Romney’s business background as a positive for getting this country back on economic track, and that among national priorities taxing the rich –the centerpiece of Obama’s entire economic strategy–finished dead last."

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  • 8/6/12
  • eljefe888

No offense, but I cannot read any "opinion" piece from Fox or any other pundit celebrity news network.

Most of what they call "news" is opinion anyway, so a labeled "opinion" piece might make me gag.

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  • 8/6/12
  • pc_intelligence
I always just write F-- News because I don't want to use obscenities. Never mind that businesses get far more breaks and deductions than the average person.
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  • 8/6/12
  • eljefe888

I say "nevermind" to the fact that it was an opinion piece on a Fox News.

Watching Fox News or MSNBC is the equivalent of getting your current events from the National Enquirer or from random idiot posts on Twitter.

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  • 8/6/12
  • 4424ever
Bush 2 had the least amount of regulation of any president for a long time and the second biggest economic crash happened under his watch. Same thing happened in the late 20's. Doing the math, it looks like when businesses are allowed to do whatever they like with no oversight or accountability, the economy falters....
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  • 8/6/12
  • baggio4

so you don't think the housing buybble fueled by governemnt programs going back to carter, that went as far as letting people use food stamps as a source of viable income to get loans for houses had anything to do with the crash???..

what news sourse do you follow in this country???..of the big three fox leans right and msnbc and cnn lean left (msnbc falls over leaning left)..
none are unbiased..all have agendas...i rate them as cnn being closest to the middle , fox next and msnbc somewhere outhere partying with karl marx

if you ra elooking for american news with a european slant russia today is about the best i've found..they are based out of dc, i think, and do a lot of stories of the US... think you get a good feel from them about how a lot of europe looks at us..

days of hardhitting imdepedant journalism are long gone in this country

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  • 8/6/12
  • CHiTown_Hustler

"so you don't think the housing buybble fueled by governemnt programs going back to carter, that went as far as letting people use food stamps as a source of viable income to get loans for houses had anything to do with the crash???.."

Nope, that didn't happen.

"that went as far as letting people use food stamps as a source of viable income to get loans for houses"

You really must stop listening to F.S.

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  • 8/6/12
  • baggio4

i went to cnn...here are their top stories

Church sorry for refusing to wed blacks 11-year-old married to 40-year-old
2nd fire in month razes Joplin mosque Loughner expected to change plea
Top senator called 'dirty liar'
Ticker: Cheney and Palin make nice Romney's VP list narrows
Cafferty: Congress on 5-week vacation?
Opinion: Voting rights under siege
Ernesto expected to become hurricane
Mortgage closing costs fall 7%
Dr. Drew's mild mental health issue
Former model: I was mutilated
See Hillary Clinton dance in Malawi
Torture rampant at drug centers Time
Is missing plane on ocean floor?
Will Ferrell upset at Kristen Stewart
Drake unveils song with Aaliyah
Hospital brings 3,000 cats to patient
Saucy! The racy Ragu ad HLN

anything worth dicussing there???
say what you want about fox but atleast look at what they have up for headlines and tell me which one looks more appealing??

Syria's prime minister reportedly has defected
- State TV building in Syria bombed
Cape Cod beaches form plan to combat shark attacks
Illinois to spend more on pensions than education
70-foot flames shoot from derailed train cars
Virtual border guard screens commuters at Ariz. post
Missouri police search for missing 12-year-old boy
Woman, 65, stops thugs from robbing pawn shop
GOP bashes White House aide who reportedly made $100G off firm linked to Iran
CEO in battle with feds to save Buckyballs toy
X-ray shows knife lodged in woman's esophagus
Police arrest 911 caller seeking ride to buy beer
Protesters picket bakery over g.ay wedding cake ban
NASA captures moment rover entered Mars' airspace
- NASA rover 'Curiosity' makes landing
- PHOTOS: 'Curiosity' tweets images from surface
Justice Department hits Gibson guitars with $300G fine
Pediatric surgeon dies trying to save drowning kids
Man buys all foreclosed homes at county auction

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  • 8/6/12
  • CHiTown_Hustler

"Top Stories" vs "Headlines"??

That's apples and oranges. Those "headlines" are AP's or Reuter's, copied word for word.

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  • 8/6/12
  • baggio4

still don't think this administration is at war with american business...of the top guitar makers gibson is the only non-union labor guitar maker in america

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/06/justice-hits-gibson-guitars-with-300g-fine-over-fingerboards/?test=latestnews

gibson is fined for buying unfinished wood...if the wood was finished by madagascar workers then there would be no violation...and read the last sentence..gibson "may " have broken the law...they didnt even know

i wonder if fender uses the same wood??..

when this first started the feds wrote a letter to fender stating..ship your labor overseas
quote from the ceo
"The Gibson Guitar saga has taken a sinister turn.

It seems that the Department of Justice wasn’t satisfied with merely raiding the law abiding factories of Gibson Guitar with armed agents, shutting down their operation costing them millions, and leaving the American company in the dark as to how to proceed without going out of business.

Now, according to CEO Henry Juszkiewicz, agents of the United States government are bluntly informing them that they’d be better off shipping their manufacturing labor overseas."

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  • 8/6/12
  • CHiTown_Hustler

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another one you didn't read through? You really must stop getting your 'news' from F.S. !!

The investigation of Lacey Act violations by Gibson began in 2008. That was under the administration YOU voted for twice. And Gibson admitted their wrongdoing.

That is a nasty habit you have of reading until you think you have something, then stopping. But it does show you being a blatant partisan.

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  • 8/6/12
  • 4424ever
Looks about the same.
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  • 8/6/12
  • wm_k
The Heritage Foundation is a great resource, baggio.
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  • 8/6/12
  • baggio4
i thought fox had more intersting stuff but its all opinion..i love that story about fender...obvious the government went after them because they are non union..actually telling them to ship their manufacturing overseas...wow
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  • 8/6/12
  • baggio4
what's their view on foriegn policy??...i always thought they were very pro war.. more neocon than conservative
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  • 8/6/12
  • CHiTown_Hustler
Did you bother to tell anyone why Gibson was told to ship the manufacturing overseas? Or would that have crushed you partisan rant?
Gibson would be able to use the illegally obtained wood overseas in the country of the wood's source, which would be within the Law of the Lacey Act, and within the international agreements we keep. The law was made so that a foreign nation's forestry wasn't stripped for a buck.
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  • 8/6/12
  • wm_k
Think you need to study up on what caused this past housing bubble. It's much deeper than the Bush/Democrat/Republican mantra you've hearing on the cable channels.
And as for the '20s,' I never did receive an answer from you regarding what specific policies were enacted that fueled and deepened the Great Depression, and 'who' enacted them:(
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  • 8/6/12
  • CHiTown_Hustler

Bush and the Republican/conservative congress deregulated Wall Street to be able to go into the banking, mortgage and insurance businesses. They in turn churned mortgages, making 'creative financing' to persuade buyers. Simple math tells the truth. A balloon mortgage came due in 5 years. The crisis started 5 years after Bush deregulated. Say 'duh' for me.

As for the 1920s, Coolidge did the same thing, Hoover continued it and we crashed then, and the conservative crowd didn't learn anything from it and did it again under Bush.

You post it, I'll correct it.

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  • 8/6/12
  • junglejimrivera
Why don't you mopes go get laid?
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