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    • Pitchers and Pine Tar
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  • 6/20/12
  • mottzzz

I'm a little surprised to hear Maddon try to defend Peralta as if every pitcher has pine tar in his glove.
That would be news to me, but then I'm not an expert on the habits of professional baseball players. Obviously, we all know that you can't have stuff in or on your glove. Especially stuff to muck up the ball with. And sure, pitchers in the National League, so maybe they might have some residual pine tar in their glove. But obviously, the umpires are saying that Peralta's glove was obvious and had a significant amount.

Have you heard of pitchers having pine tar in their glove for any reason other than to doctor the ball???

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  • 6/20/12
  • latrey
Hmmm, I don't know what the point of calling Peralta out was. The Nats still lost. If you're going to try to get an edge like that, win the game. Tonight expect to see multiple incidents to throw Stras off his game. <Sigh>
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  • 6/20/12
  • rayD

Question:
I fell asleep and missed the whole incident. I read that Peralta was ejected before throwing a pitch. Was the next batter awarded first base? (The story I read didn't say.)

A pitcher brought in is required to face at least one batter, and I don't think injury or ejection is an exception - that if there is injury or ejection before he faces a batter, the batter is awarded first base - but I have never seen it happen.

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  • 6/20/12
  • actamaniac

I never heard of that rule. I don't remember them awarding the batter first base last night.

The next pitcher who came in got the Nats out 1-2-3, and either Bob or FP said they might have been better off leaving Peralta in.

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  • 6/20/12
  • mottzzz

I turned the tv on just as the next pitcher was coming in and just missed it. I had to hurry and figure out what was going on so I could explain it to my wife.

No, the batter didn't get a base. Peralta came in, threw some warm-up pitches, and then Davey asked the ump to check before the batter got to the box.

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  • 6/20/12
  • richmindc
In his presser Davey said......"it probably was a dumb move (getting Peralta ejected) , since the lefty got us 1-2-3"
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  • 6/20/12
  • actamaniac
The reporters kept badgering Davey, trying to get him to name the person(s) on the team who tipped him off about the pine tar. I thought for sure he was going to tell them it was a clown question.
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  • 6/20/12
  • derby_tan
Haha that would have been hilarious
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  • 6/20/12
  • gimmythegeek

"If it ain't roids, it's something else;" like when was the last time ya heard of a pitcher being accused of throwing spitballs?"

On June 11th, 2012, that's exactly what happened during a game between the Detriot Tigers and the Cincinnati Reds. Jose Valverde is the one accused, and there is a hotly contested video showing the act close up. What's dis woild commin ta?

gimmy

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  • 6/20/12
  • richmindc
How a bout Maddon complaining about peralta getting caught "everyone does it"
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  • 6/20/12
  • MattyL

"In his presser Davey said......"it probably was a dumb move (getting Peralta ejected) , since the lefty got us 1-2-3" "

Lombardozzi actually had a good at bat and was out only because of an excellent fielding play. The "dumb move" was Danny Espinosa then hacking at the first pitch to make it 2 out, nobody on. Whatever momentum or advantage we might have gained by causing the ejection of their intended reliever went right out the window right there.

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  • 6/20/12
  • gimmythegeek

The whole thing was pathetically hilarious, I mean Maddon accusing Davey of using insider info because Peralta pitched for us, thus ensinuating Johnson was aware of what Joel was doing also. "Bush league" was what he called it. ;~)

gimmy

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  • 6/20/12
  • mottzzz
We'll never know what happened if Peralta stayed in the game. It might have been a 1-2-3 inning, anyways.
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  • 6/20/12
  • richmindc

I can't believe you guys are taking DJs quote seiously and discussing it

Duh

I t was said tongue and cheek as in humorous

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  • 6/20/12
  • latrey
The thing that makes me the most enraged over this whole Blown UP thing is that the Nats didn't capitalize on it when it happend. That's what's Bush League...amatures.
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  • 6/20/12
  • panatsfan

I'd much rather lose to a pitcher who was not cheating.

And I hope that our pitchers are not doing the same thing, as it would certainly hurt my respect for them.

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  • 6/20/12
  • eddiejc1
I can't believe this is being talked about nationally---no pun intended.
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  • richmindc
Johnson never managed Peralta get your facts right Peralta wa shere in 2010 Johnson started mid 2011
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  • 6/20/12
  • eddiejc1

Rich, you remember 2005. Didn't Jose Guillen give Frank Robinson some information about the Angels that he used when the Nats went to Anaheim that year? Or am I misremembering?

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/15/AR2005061500211.html

The difference is that year nobody outside Washington noticed that little incident. This year it's mentioned on both the Colin Cowherd show and Around The Horn.

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