ahhh... i feel... vindicated? affirmed? I don't know, but I knew no one threw that nonsense, because it's ridiculous.
The quote from Mick saying it knuckles some times is what drives me crazy.
When young kids try to throw splits, the ball knuckles because their hands aren't big enough and the fingers don't spread enough, and the ball is basically lodged in their fingers like they are saying with Contreras, and the result is a ball with no spin that is impossible to control.
Now, Contreras... he does it on purpose, and he's the only man alive I know who can control it. There were relievers in the past - the 70's and 80's that messed around with it, but man oh man - I knew when I wrote that post in "the difference between a change and a curveball" that I did something right. I think they should credit me in that article :)
Haha, yeah, I figured you'd get a good kick out of reading this. And it really was quite timely as well!
(uh-oh, I think we're starting to agree too much again!!!)
This is really interesting.
Have you (or JC) noticed the following...
A few years ago, I was watching "classic games" from ESPN from the 70s and 80s. I noticed that they said, "forkball" a number of times for the pitch that to me, looks like a plain old curve. Or possible a breaking ball. Anyway, the thing arcs down in front of the batter.
Did pitchers use more forkballs back then?
I thought it was just a term that was out of vogue.