Top of my list is Jeremy Guthrie. I would put Glenn Davis second because of all the winning seasons with could have had with Mussina and Schilling at the top of the rotation. Also on my list would be Albert Belle, Sammy Sosa, Vlad, Gary Thorne and Andy MacPhail.

You know Andy MacPhail was the one that got Adam Jones here right and hired Buck?

Jeremey Guthrie was bad as a pitcher but he did get the Os Matt lindstrom and Jason hammel who have been good pitchers and Gary Thorne I like as announcer but I dont know his stats when he played

well put and agreed! guthrie losing wasnt his fault in fact he was originally part of billy beanes "dream team" because he has very good stuff and gives innings, when beane likes a pitcher he is usually right abput them and mcphails current mark om the orioles is pretty good if u see who he aquired last year and more recently (jones, davis, strop,etc).
slick...ur just wrong

Julio Lugo

Right up there with Matt Albers and Kevin Gregg. STB hall of famers !

willy miranda,joe gaines,earl robinson,jim finigan,dave nicholson,jim pyburn,billy loes,don larson,art cecerelli,arnold porticorro,bill howard.etc.

After years of dispiriting Orioles baseball, we've finally got something good going so I kinda hate to join in on this negative topic, but Albert Belle and Alan Wiggins come to mind. I remember Earl Weaver being quoted as saying that Wiggins was the worst player he'd ever been asked to deal with. (Of course, Wiggins had substance & health issues and shouldn't have been on a baseball diamond by then anyway.)

Of course Jeremy Guthrie is the "worst Oriole ever." No evidence why would be necessary.

I agree about Glenn Davis.

But it's worth noting that Albert Belle played two seasons with Baltimore and the final three years of his contract were paid for by an insurance company... not by the team.

Belle played 302 games for the Orioles and had 1344 plate appearances. He went 338-1169 (.289), had a .374 OBP (walking 153 times and striking out 150 times). His Slugging percentage was .509 (73 doubles, 2 triples, and 60 home runs. He scored 179 runs and knocked in 220 in two seasons.

In 1999 he played in 161 games and hit .297/.400/.541, hit 37 HRs, knocked in 117 and stole 17 bases in 20 attempts. Even you might admit that was a pretty good season.

In 2000, playing with a degenerating hip that led to his retirement, he still hit .281 and had 103 RBI. He was a pretty good ball player.

You know 3 pickoffs, I think my poor view of Albert Belle was much more about my poor view at the time of the O's having acquired him. The stats don't lie, I'm a victim of selective memory. The articles I read back then indicated the team was stuck with those years of salary while Belle was inactive, but I trust your assertion that it was covered by insurance & I suppose it feels better to know that (though I'm not sure why). I never liked his attitude when he was in Cleveland and didn't view him as being in the mode of an "Orioles-type" player, but it's hard to argue with the numbers you quoted that he put up when he did play.

"I trust your assertion that it was covered by insurance & I suppose it feels better to know that"

3po's is correct about the insurance thing, however if my memory is correct I believe it covered 80% of the remaining contract from the time he was disabled and not the entire amount. Also, for some reason stipulated in regards to the insurance we had to keep him on the forty man roster for the duration of the contract to collect the insurance. This may not seem like a big deal but I'm sure working with what amounts to a thirty nine man roster for three years must have been a bit problematic at times.

Geez, thanks a lot.

Willy Miranda, the hero of my youth, and you put him FIRST on your list of all-time worst Orioles? Sheesh!

Not sure why you didn't like Billy Loes. During his four years with the Orioles, he pitched to an ERA of 3.71. I can think of a lot of guys that I wish would have had an ERA that low.

And who the heck was Bill Howard?

Omar Daal. He stunk it up as a starter and then was even worse as a reliever and blew any lead we had when he was brought in. I will never forget the horribleness I witnessed on the mound when he pitched.

I know all of those names from baseball cards. But what did you think of Miranda's fielding? The '58 card I just got of him says "Probably the most graceful fielder in the league, Willie is an airtight defnder who makes the tough plays look easy. He has a knack of getting into position as soon as the ball is hit." Were they being kind or was he that good?

Oh wow, how the heck did i forget to include Kevin Gregg on my list. i'll throw him third after Glenn Davis. I'll also add Daniel Cabrera to the list.

BraveOriole, thanks for asking.

Although he was a very weak hitter (which is probably what Over40 remembers about him) Willy Miranda did have a reputation as an excellent fielder. Because the baseball gloves of the 1950's weren't nearly as good as those of later years, his fielding percentage doesn't compare well with the likes of Mark Belanger and Ozzie Smith, but he was regarded as a top-notch fielder in his day. He was also considered to have an excellent arm.

I remember that there was a publication of some sort of other - at this late date, I don't remember whether it was a magazine or a newspaper - that ran a series of articles featuring tips from big league players. When the series started, they printed a list of all the players who would be featured in the series, and Willy was on the list.

I was thrilled. This was at a time when Baltimore generally languished in the bottom half of the American League standings and most baseball fans paid very little attention to the Orioles, so the fact that an Oriole was to be featured in this series indicated that somebody regarded him as pretty special - and not only were they going to put an Oriole in there, but it was going to be my favorite player to boot.

I eagerly awaited the tip from my hero, but when it came out, Willy talked about throwing, and emphasized the importance of getting a wrist snap into the throw.

I wanted so much to emulate my hero, but I didn't have the foggiest idea what he meant by snapping my wrist or how to do it when I threw a baseball.

Of course, given the fact that I couldn't hit, hit with power, run, or field very well, the fact that I didn't immediately pick up on the technical fine point of how to snap my wrist when I threw is probably not the only thing that kept me from being a big league shortstop. :)

I dunno about all time worse cuz that would obviously be a bunch of players we don't remember, but here's my all time list of Orioles I actually hated in a metaphorical imaginary line up card:

1. Jeffrey Hammonds cf : He was supposed to be everything Adam Jones is, and we are still waiting for him to blossom.

2. Jay Gibbons rf : Another bad player that had us scratching our heads for a long time.

3. Cal Ripken Jr. SS : Brett Favre doesn't hold a candle to the biggest Iron Man diva to ever to hold a team hostage.

4. Glen Davis 1b : Bats clean up just like his trade cleaned the O's farm system. We would never get another batch of players that good for another 20 years.

5. Luke Scott DH : I hated having to root for that racist trash.

6. Leo Gomez 3b : His two -way badness hurt me personally since he was from my home town. His errors were even more maddening than Reynolds.

7. Felix Pie LF : The only every day line up he will ever be in.

8. Geronimo Gil C : Catcher is one position we have been pretty lucky with through thick and thin, even the retreads played Ok.

9. Billy Ripken 2b : He's an ok chap and I like him on baseball tonight, if he hadn't been forced down our throats by King Junior I would have liked him as a scrappy UT. But even in this lineup he bats 9th.

SP: Sidney Ponson : Of all our failed pitching prospects this guy manged to be the biggest D about it.

RP : Kevin Gregg : Good gawd he is awful