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    • Chris Davis
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  • 6/14/12
  • 66Bird
Have barely had time to catch games much less be up to date regarding peripheral issues. It's probably been discussed previously however, with both Davis and Reynolds in the lineup, why isn't Chris in the field more? Wondering if he is trade bait.
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  • 6/14/12
  • oshimsady

Davis hasnt been in the field lately because his defense is below average. At lease what he has displayed thus far has been sub par. A big error or two comes to mind in a previous yankee series.

In my opinion, he has trouble with anything that isnt a slow or avg speed ground ball right at him. Hard hit one hoppers and picking the ball on a one hope throw from Hardy or Betemit is touble for him.

Mark Reynolds is avg as well but I think has displayed a little more defensive ability. Mainly the ability to pick one hoppers.

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  • 6/14/12
  • RustyBaker

I thought that they were shopping Reynolds. From what I've heard, I think he feels more comfortable in the field, resulting in an improvement in fielding. I hope to God we are not trading Davis. Already tearing it up and only 26 years old.

For the record, Davis is much better at 1B than Reynolds in his career, though the small sample size of this season would indicate otherwise.

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  • 6/14/12
  • hunt_yanks
I agree, but I don't know if they are shopping Reynolds as much as they might be allowing him a chance to prove that he can play somewhere in the field to himself and to all of baseball. Basically, that he is more than just a DH, which would limit his career to playing in the AL. If Reynolds has somehow turned the corner and is able to play first base better than he has in the past, he will be more valuable to us or anyone else in baseball. But yeah, for their careers thus far, Davis has been a much better defensive first baseman than Reynolds and yes he did have his worst struggles as a first baseman this year.
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  • 6/14/12
  • RIOsFan

"I hope to God we are not trading Davis. Already tearing it up and only 26 years old."

Trading away one of our best bats at this point in his career would be idiotic, IMO, but the Warehouse might be trying to see if Reynolds is an option going forward so that they can trade Davis, who probably has more value. I don't want to see Davis go anywhere, I love to watch him hit, he has one of the most effortless swings I have ever seen and his power numbers should only improve as he gets closer to 30. His hitting for average is a little bit of a surprise, I expected him to be a .260 - .270 guy with power and too many strike-outs.

Also, he is usually a much better defensive player than Reynolds and would probably improve there if allowed to play everyday...

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  • 6/14/12
  • willym

In the immediate future, if Buck wants Davis' bat in the lineup for the Atlanta and New York series, he's going to have to find a place for him in the field.

Question is, do you put Davis at first and move Reynolds to third - put Davis at first and Reynolds on the bench - or leave Reynolds at first and stick Davis at third, despite the defensive misadventures that resulted when they tried that arrangement at the end of last season?

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  • 6/14/12
  • hunt_yanks
If we trade Davis and then Reynolds becomes Reynolds again defensively, I would go ballistic. We need to go with the players that have a proven track record and that are young. Going with older players that have not proven themselves at a certain position is what doomed the Yankees with the Joba to starter conversion and the Red Sox with the Bard to starter conversion. It likely would have doomed us if we had tried to make Jim Johnson a starter as so many suggested before the season started. Don't mess with what is working, don't try to reinvent the wheel.
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  • 6/14/12
  • Fl_Oriole

""I hope to God we are not trading Davis. Already tearing it up and only 26 years old."

No way the O's trade Davis, we finally have a young, solid 1B and he's under team control until 2015.

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  • 6/14/12
  • hunt_yanks

"...or leave Reynolds at first and stick Davis at third, despite the defensive misadventures that resulted when they tried that arrangement at the end of last season?"

Reynolds is statistically better at third than Davis for their careers, Davis is statistically better at first than Reynolds for their careers, Buck will likely make the right choice because the numbers support it.

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  • 6/14/12
  • RustyBaker
Yeah, also I meant playing in the field improved Reynold's batting, not fielding lol. I just hope that Davis doesn't become only a DH for us because of Reynolds, because I am under the impression that normally he is a near GG caliber 1B. Reynolds and GG do not belong in the same sentence (oops did I just do that...?).
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  • 6/14/12
  • 66Bird
"trading Davis idiotic" All depends on what you get for him. Top shelf starter?
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  • 6/14/12
  • piccamo

While I generally agree that things shouldn't be jumbled around just for the sake of it, there is plenty of data showing relievers being converted to starters working well. This year alone we have Chris Sale, Neftali Feliz (pre-injury), Lance Lynn, and Jeff Samardzija. Sure, Bard didn't work out, but that's not an indictment on the whole conversion process. We might have Joba in the past, but we also have C.J. Wilson. I think it comes down to player evaluation, conditioning, and process. The best relievers offer their teams an additional 2 wins. An average mid-rotation starter offers around 3.5.

Converting relievers isn't bad so long as it's done properly.

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  • 6/14/12
  • Fl_Oriole

"trading Davis idiotic" All depends on what you get for him. Top shelf starter?

Not gonna happen, plus when was the last time the O's had a power hitting first basemen? Reynolds doesn’t count. Davis is locked up through 2015, he could be the O's long term answer at first.

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  • 6/14/12
  • 66Bird
Keep up with all the response suggesting it's idiotic and ain't happening. I'll agree he probably won't trade because the right pitching arm(s) is not available. But, if the right offer comes along nobody is off limits. Still cannot figure out why we currently treat him as if he was a long term answer at DH?

Edited 6/14/12   by  66Bird
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  • 6/14/12
  • righteous_leader

"why isn't Chris in the field more?"

I think I remember hearing something after Davis' pitching performance that he had a sore shoulder for a day or so. Dhing him might be Bucks effort to keep him off the dl.

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  • 6/14/12
  • righteous_leader

"In the immediate future, if Buck wants Davis' bat in the lineup for the Atlanta and New York series, he's going to have to find a place for him in the field."

With Chavez now on the dl. i would put Davis in the outfield mix for atleast the Atlanta series. i think he played some games in leftfield last season. I would be ok, with Andino at 3rd, Reynolds at 1st and Davis is either left or right depending on which outfield position is less challenging. It's tradition from back to little league to put the biggest, slowest, less athlete kid either behind the plate or in left field.

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  • 6/14/12
  • RIOsFan
It seems that we all agree that Davis is a terrific young 1st baseman, and nobody wants to see him go anywhere, but if the possiblity of obtaining a top of the rotation starter comes along, (and I stress that I can't imagine this happening), you would have to listen to that offer. Good pitching is the gold standard, you can never have too much and it trumps all other needs. Having said that, I hope Davis is in an O's uniform for years to come.
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  • 6/14/12
  • RustyBaker

"With Chavez now on the dl. i would put Davis in the outfield mix for atleast the Atlanta series. i think he played some games in leftfield last season. I would be ok, with Andino at 3rd, Reynolds at 1st and Davis is either left or right depending on which outfield position is less challenging. It's tradition from back to little league to put the biggest, slowest, less athlete kid either behind the plate or in left field."

He never played any games in left field. Look up his statistics, he's a very good defensive first baseman in his career. Bench Reynolds and start Davis at first, I don't know why everyone is so eager to shove him off of first base.

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  • 6/14/12
  • 66Bird
Nonsense!
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  • 6/14/12
  • 66Bird
"stress, I can't imagine this happening" LOL! All we need is a MLB team somewhere with 10 top shelf starters and the need for a power hitting, lefty first baseman.
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