<Doesn't matter, yea we made some good moves so far this off-season, but we just don't match up with either of these teams. Upton to the Braves is a dagger to the heart of Mets.
The Nationals have big time talent basically at every position. The Mets are budding into hopefully a respectable team, but lets face it, we have some hell of a competition to deal with in the coming seasons. I see the sky falling.
Oh, and I might just be forgetting the Phils are regathering and licking their wounds to be a good team once again.
This isn;t just forecasts for the woeful near-term most of us can agree on, this is true for the long term prospect.
Yes indeed it is.
I do think the Phils will be right there too.
The Braves will have a borderline elite outfield on both sides of the ball as well as a group that is still extremely young (J.Upton 25, B.J. Upton 28, Heyward 23). Assuming that 23-year olds Freddie Freeman and Andrelton Simmons continue to make strides..
Shall we also talk about their pitching staff?
To answer your fundamental difference of opinion, long term for me is looking 2+ years down the road. Thats a long time for people, especially in New York.
I know the Braves have never been a team to sit still. They improve themselves constantly in all aspects of their roster. And I agree they have an OF that potentially could be with them for the next 7-10 years (give or take). The Mets would do well to emulate the way they conduct their baseball operations. That takes an FO that truly cares..something I do not believe we have right now.
As for the long term, thats why I said 2015. If it goes beyond that and the Mets are basically in the same shape they are in now ... if Citifield isn't completely empty ... fill in the rest. To me, long term is beyond that 2 year mark.
Sorry, but anyone who didn't see the Nationals rising last year, especially after the Gonzalez trade, was a fool.
With the pitching talent they have, it was no surprise to me at all, that they did so well last year.
I and many others on this board put much more stock into the Nationals then that link you provided. Not to toot my own horn, but I was only wrong about the Phils. And of course the Marlins really were an enigma.
Look the bottom line is it makes perfect sense to expect another Mets 4th place finish for the next 2 years even 3. This is the logic of trading away Dickey anyway.
I think that with the elimination of Bay, Torres, Thole and Nickeas we have unloaded nothing in the way of good offense. And I think that with younger players competing for the playing time the team will be more exciting to watch then last year. Grittier and more driven.
The Nats were highly pitcher driven and everyone knows how that can go with ups and downs but especially with injuries.
The Braves haven't gotten any better they just swapped players that were dependable for more flash and more Ks
The phils have a younger outfield but the rest of the team including the pitchers are getting older and last year they were showing some cracks.
Like always Baseball is unpredictable and we will have to see what happens on the field over the course of 162 games.