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    • Can the Mets win the World Series in 2016?
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  • 12/18/12
  • met383

I think we won this trade with Toronto.

We traded away a 38 year old whose arm is about to explode into a million pieces. Sell high bro.

On the other hand, we get a future Mike Piazza in Travis D'Arnaud and a future Justin Verlander in Noah Syndergaard (a couple of potential hall of famers).

With guys like Harvey and Wheeler on the rise, we have 3 legit aces. They should be ready to bolt this team into playoff contention in 2015. In 2016, I think we can win it all if we add a couple of more pieces.

What do you think?

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  • 12/18/12
  • murphstates
I think equating them to the greatest offensive catcher in baseball history and the best pitcher in baseball may be a wee bit premature.
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  • 12/18/12
  • met383

Travis D'Arnaud is projected to be Mike Piazza. Nothing wrong with stating the obvious.

There's a reason why Syndergaard's nickname is Synderlander. He's got the stuff.

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  • 12/18/12
  • murphstates
No, no one has ever projected d'Arnaud as Mike Piazza and Snydergaard has never thrown a pitch above A ball.
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  • 12/18/12
  • Melo15nym

Look, I love this trade, but can we stop labeling them as potential hall of famers and comparing them to other great players.

It's just stupid.


Edited 12/18/12   by  Melo15nym
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  • 12/18/12
  • murphstates
I love the trade too, but this is getting ridiculous. The scouting reports on d'Arnaud are all solid, but I've never seen anything that even projects him as a 30+ HR player, let alone Mike Piazza.

Edited 12/18/12   by  murphstates
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  • 12/18/12
  • Melo15nym
He will never ever be the hitter Piazza was. His ceiling is most likey a RH version of McCann. Maybe a tad better.
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  • 12/18/12
  • met383

Just wait...he'll prove you all wrong.

He hit 16 home in 67 games last season. The season before, he had 21 home runs in 114 games.

That's 37 home runs in his last 181 games.

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  • 12/18/12
  • Melo15nym
What are you talking about that he'll prove me wrong? I'm not denying that he has potential, I'm saying that why do we always have to compare him to some hall of famer? It's just as stupid saying he will be bust.
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  • 12/18/12
  • met383

Yes. Syndergaard has nothing pitched about A ball.

He's only 20 years old and he'll be in AA already.

Verlander never reached the majors full time until he was 23 years old.

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  • 12/18/12
  • Melo15nym
Thanks for telling me something new.
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  • 12/18/12
  • met383
Why are you comparing D'Arnaud to McCann. McCann's career high in home runs is 24. Do you really think he can't match that?
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  • 12/18/12
  • met383

The Mets offered RA Dickey a contract extension at the retirement age of 38.

They proved that money will be spent!

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  • 12/18/12
  • Melo15nym
I'm not comparing him to McCann, I'm saying that is probably his ceiling offensively.
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  • 12/18/12
  • murphstates

Good God. Justin Verlander was drafted out of college. He made his minor league debut at 22 and pitched in the major leagues the same year. He went from A+ to the major leagues in the same season and only threw 118 minor league innings.

When Mike Piazza was the same age as d"Arnaud is now he hit .318 with 35 HRs and 112 RBIs IN THE MAJOR LEAGUES.

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  • 12/18/12
  • met383

Nope. When D'Arnaud begins the season with the Mets in April, his career will have begun before Piazza began his major league career. So your point is invalid.

Whether Verlander went to college or not, doesn't matter. Syndergaard at 20 years old in AA is well ahead in his progress. He's slated to be in the majors by 22.

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