The team is bad. It has a lot of holes. They won't be a serious contender until at least 2014. The Wilpons are bad and are killing the team. Alderson is a puppet. Collins isn't perfect, and parrots the party line. Bay needs to go, and the Wilpons are the ones that won't let go.

All of the above is true. Fine. We get it. How many threads do we need to say it?

EVERY DAY the same thing. It's not going to change overnight.

I know it's frustrating, but egads, can't people move on already?

You left out the most annoying daily quote of all: "We just gotta get Jason Bay's bat going". Only that one's not coming from the fans.

Yes. you are correct. I forgot that one.

"What should the topic of conversation be? "

Look at the pieces we have and the ones that are due to come up. See what's what. Figure out where the short term holes are, as well as long term. Think about what they need to do to win.

That at least is constructive.

At the very least, can't we keep the same threads going, rather than making 50 new ones daily saying the same stuff?

We know what the answer will be. The Wilpons will clearly hold on to him at least until the off-season, because they are SO desperate to try and get something back from him in production.

But he's actually costing more than just eating the contract at this point

"This is not happening. Fans see it which is the reason for all the type of posts you speak of...
"

What do you want, a cookie?

OK, 2019 then. How about 2050?

Instead of being a pedantic d|ck, maybe you should see the point. You're kind of demonstrating why this forum is a cesspool

Instead we can say they fought hard tonight.

"for at least 7-10 years"

That's just stupid. It wouldn't take THAT long to rebuild a team.

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The squeaky wheel gets the oil...
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Complaining here isn't going to get the Wilpons to do JACK

"Complaining here isn't going to get the Wilpons to do JACK"

So, the paying customers should just keep quiet and accept the Wilpons as they are. Accept that they lack the financial clout to compete in a large market, accept that they lack integrity, class and baseball sense, accept that somehow they manage to pi**ss off at least half the fan base with consistency...

I know the complaining on this board gets tiresome. But as fans we have every right to vent out our frustrations with the team's ownership. Will the Wilpons do JACK? I don't know if we fans will ever get through to them, induce them to make the necessary changes to get us over the top or better yet, just sell the team and leave it in more capable hands. But if we just sit around and meekly accept the Wilpons' old and tired regime they most certainly WON'T DO JACK SHI**T...

"Complaining here isn't going to get the Wilpons to do JACK"

So, the paying customers should just keep quiet and accept the Wilpons as they are. Accept that they lack the financial clout to compete in a large market, accept that they lack integrity, class and baseball sense, accept that somehow they manage to pi**ss off at least half the fan base with consistency...

I know the complaining on this board gets tiresome. But as fans we have every right to vent out our frustrations with the team's ownership. Will the Wilpons do JACK? I don't know if we fans will ever get through to them, induce them to make the necessary changes to get us over the top or better yet, just sell the team and leave it in more capable hands. But if we just sit around and meekly accept the Wilpons' old and tired regime they most certainly WON'T DO JACK SHI**T...

Sorry, that last post was meant for Exile....

"So, the paying customers should just keep quiet and accept the Wilpons as they are."

NO

But complain in a way THAT THEY CAN SEE

Write to the team. Call them. Call local sport media.

I'm saying that this isn't the venue that's going to get ANY attention. The Wilpons couldn't give a !@#% about this forum.

There's one thing on this forum that MIGHT work.....

If no one posted at all, and it was dead. A complete lack of interest. THAT might get back to them. It could show a level of disgust SO high that people couldn't even be bothered to complain anymore....

2013 Opening Day Left Fielder...book it.