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    • AYYAYAYAY CANTA Y NO LLORES
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  • 7/20/12
  • bellugawhale
Thats how I feel every time I see the marlins played........Im really done I try to stay away ..came back still had hopes for this team but if the players dont care about winning and the FO dont care about having a winning product in the field then why we the fans should give a s%it about the marlins I always stand up for this team in the old stadium when the Fo said we cant afford a good team....Well now you have your stadium and the FO still cant put a winning team in the field...what a waste of space and talent.......Im done for the season.....Probably will go on strike for a while with this FO this team will go nowhere.....
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  • 7/21/12
  • bajan997
I was a season ticket holder and i refuse to renew it when i see the fo don't give a damm about the fans and folks jump all over me, saying i'm not a true fan.
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  • 7/21/12
  • Jupiterfan
I've become a closet Rays fan. In fact I just got my new hat in the mail. Thank god for Fox Florida. I can watch the fish lose another game, and then switch over to the adjoining channel and watch a young team made up of ball players who really try, and it's quite entertaining. I also like the broadcaters better. Tommy and Rich s*ck! Oh, and dont forget the Fox Florida girls! D@mn! By the way, did anybody see Buck try and bunt and pop up to the pitcher??? Guys, we really s*ck!!!
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  • 7/22/12
  • underdog2006

I'm starting to root for the Pirates. It's been so long since they've even finished at .500. I'd love to see them make the playoffs and then make a run. Since the Marlins won't be there, my ultimate NLCS this season would be the Pirates against the Nationals. Two teams that haven't been on the national stage in a long time, or ever in the Nationals' case. It would also pit Clint Hurdle against his former manager Davey Johnson (one of the best managers around IMHO).

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  • 7/22/12
  • Jupiterfan
Yeah, that does sound like a good series. Would like to see the Red as well!
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  • 7/22/12
  • fshfanatic
I'm rooting for the Rays because they are always an exciting team ... I wonder why that is... I'm also pulling for the Pirates because I've always liked them. What a dissapointing season!! I blame the players, Ozzie and Perez for this disaster. Not sure about the FO as they have so far put their $$ where the mouth is. Wait a minute there before you bite my head off... someone please tell me exactly why we are blaming the FO?
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  • 7/22/12
  • underdog2006
Because they got the players that aren't performing? Just spending money isn't enough - you have to spend it wisely.

Edited 7/22/12   by  underdog2006
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  • 7/23/12
  • Jupiterfan
You're kinda right, can't blame the FO for the lack of production or performance by their acquisitions. Who knew Reyes, Buhrle, and Bell would have such down years? Carlos Lee has been a breath of fresh air, but he is not long for this place. Problem for the other three is that long term and guaranteed contracts will make them ours for a while. I thought Bell was too old to give a three year contract to as a closer in the first place. Oh well boys and girls, we s@ck this year. Tick, tock, only 8 more days left til the end of trading deadline. Sounds like Sanchez will be the first out of here. Shame...
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  • 7/23/12
  • underdog2006

Buehrle is about the only one who's performed but we signed him to a 4-year deal so we'll see how he is for the rest of it.

I'll give the FO a pass on Reyes. He's always done a good job of getting on base. The only thing with him is that we didn't need him. It was smart to move Hanley away from SS but I think our money would've been better spent on Fielder rather than a fast, get-on-base kind of guy. Some of it was based on defense, I'm sure - our defense has been bad for so long that we wanted to improve that, which Reyes should do.

As far as Bell, that's Beinfest's job to know that he was on the way down. There were signs, such as the dropping K-IP rate and Bell's terrible physical conditioning. I didn't think Bell would collapse like this but I'm not paid $1M a year to determine these things; Beinfest is.

Also, thinking that Gaby Sanchez could do the job was a mistake by the Front Office.

Signing Buck last season or giving a big contract to Nolasco were other mistakes. Even signing Hanley to the big contract has proven to be a mistake. And of course the big mistake - trading one of the top 10 RH hitters of all time and ending up with Edward Mujica and Ryan Webb to show for him. I don't know if any other GM in the game could've survived that disaster.

Lee has not been as good an acquisition as you'd think. He hit that Grand Slam and he's walking a bunch for us, but he's only batting .217 with just 2 XBH's. His OPS with the Marlins is .673. He's only hit 1 HR outside of Houston all season.

Sanchez has about as much trade value as anybody on the team so he'll be the first to go. But except for Stanton, they can all go as long as we get value back (it won't be equal value but as long as we don't give players away, I'm okay with it).

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  • 7/23/12
  • paulyrulo

Buck bunt???? how about throwing the ball into right field.......hes a good guy but a real lousy catcher/hitter......just another bad move by the front office besides hanley, bell, reyes.

Problem is Loria hires all his family and close friends...not guys with good baseball evaluation skills.

I knew reyes would be a bust this year..............

Im also pretty fed up with watching the clowning around on the bench by reyes and other guys even after they screw up or are losing as usual.

Ozzeee is responsible for that garbage attitude since hes the head clown.....we need discipline on this team and accountability...not clowns laughing it up while they are losing.....that wouldnt even be acceptable on a high school team......so why is it ok for a so-called pro team to allow this???

THAT I think is at the heart of their problems.

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  • 7/23/12
  • paulyrulo

CarlosLee is a gem.....and a very good player......too bad he has to put up with the likes of the 2 latin clowns Reyes and ramirez.....boy thats some duo.....messin up and laughin all the way too.

Thats why I cant watch this team....at least Buck with all his lack of talent, takes his job seriously.

So as mgr, Ozzee is failing at having the right attitude on the players.....to him its ok if they act like clowns as he does.

So if we want a good team we need to unload....reyes, ramirez, bell, ozzee at the very least.......

if they are gone then good riddance........

Ill be at tonights game and I'll be screamin obscenities at those guys because they DESERVE IT!

At least I'll get my money's worth.

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  • 7/23/12
  • paulyrulo

We are blaming the FO because they dont know how to EVALUATE talent...........just because you pay a lot of money for someone doesnt mean that it was a good move.....ie put their money where their mouths are......as you say.

Who would want hanley, reyes, bell, and buck at those salaries? And how about that fraud of a mgr Ozzee?????

I wouldnt even want them for free!

You think its just the players fault....no....they hired some charlatan named ozzee to manage these guys and hes not doing well at all........the FO picked him too.......

When guys with all thier experience and so-called talent are underachieving at this rate it shows how poor the mgr and coaches are and the tone they set for these guys to over achieve.

And dont tell me that all these moves werent because they thought a latin mgr would go over big in Miami......welll that was some screw-up even before the season started wasnt it? Shows how intelligent Mr Ozzee is......like I said, i wouldnt have him manage a lemo0nade stand.

We coulda still had Uggla if hanley wasnt here and of course cabrerra if they werent so cheap.....and they refuse to play Solano as a regular even though he would out perform Hanley every time out.

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  • 7/23/12
  • Jupiterfan

I guess the bottom line is we are all unhappy and want to hold someone accountable. Knowing how Samson and Loria micromanage this team, I just can't see Beinfest or Hill being fired at this point. I think they are both basically "yes men."

You want to see a REAL GM, look no further than my friend Walt Jocketty of the Reds. Do the research and see how often the owner's name or that of any other "higher up" is mentioned in team decisions. He in the GM and President of Baseball Operations. In other words, he runs the show.

As long as we continue to have Loria who directs Samson who directs Beinfest who directs Hill who directs Ozzie, this team 'aint goin no where. Oh, I forgot the big fat black guy who thinks he is Loria's body guard, good luck with him ever catching anybody... I think someone tells him waht to do too. What a joke!

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  • 7/24/12
  • 305native
They depend on beinfest to evaluate talent and make decisions more than you think, jupe. he is the guy in my sights as a big problem.
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  • 7/24/12
  • Jupiterfan
Yeah, and so I say it's time to sh@tcan him Tom! Enough already. Why, given his track record, does he get so many chances?
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