Well after a great month of May we came back down to earth really hard and after June this team has not been able to keep it together at all......The way the season started in April was not an impressive start but I gave them the benefit of the doubt...Now half a season has gone by and well Hanley is being Hanley and what else I can say unless a miracle happens I dont see this team going to be a playoff contender at all....I did say it at the beggining of the season that this team doesnt have what it takes to be a contender team.....So sad that I got caught like most of us in the hype of the new stadium.....but being realistic this FO doesnt have a clue on how to put a good product on the field.....a winning team in the field......So many wasted opportunities well lets see now if they do another firesale this year so the stadium can go back to being empty....What is gonna be the excuse now from the FO......I mean before it was that they coudnt afford payroll because the old stadium contract....Well now they have one and still can get a winning team....We real Marlins Fan saw this coming I mean all the teams in our division got better except us.....Well at least we dont have the worst record in the league.......

9 Games back in the East and 6 games back in the Wild Card....Only way the fish have a chance is if JJ, Hanley, and Reyes, the stars on the team play the best baseball they can play...With all that we have seen during the season, i dont think we can look forward to competing for a playoff spot unfortunately. Really all im hoping for is to finish above .500 and not finish in last place.

.500 will be a tremendous triumph for this team..........they have some nice pieces on this team but the supposed stars like hanley, JJ, Bell, Buck etc are killing thier chances.

The young guys rae doing great....Stanton, rugs, Solano etc.

Bonnie coming back will help a lot.....

But they have soe guys like hanley who will hold this team down....if they dont improve........

Nice to see that Mike Dunn has learned how to pitch....not just be a flame thrower.........

We need to trade Hanley and Bell at least to get some bucks to get some new players with some talent and desire..........then maybe next year we can look for a better team to emerge.

Now I know how Cubs fans feel!

Buck was never considered a star. He's just paid like one.

Ruggs is actually 30 years old. Young compared to me and you but he's been a AAAA player up until now. But he has done great. I know he's stuggled lately but I don't think Ozzie should drop him back into a platoon just to get ABs for Dobbs and Cousings.

Solano has 50 ABs. I wouldn't call what he's done great. His OPS in that tiny little sample size is about the same as Hanley's.

If they can find somebody to take Bell, they should. But between the drop in K's last year and now the collapse this year, I don't think anybody is stupid enough to pay his salary. He reminds me of David Wells in the 2003 Series bragging how he doesn't exercise and then hurt his back in Game 3 (or was it Game 5) and really hurting the Yankees. As I've gotten older, I need to exercise more and more so as to not fall apart. You'd think a professional athlete would realize that.

Funny, no mention of Hanley at all in this piece. But Stanton is, are you kidding me!? As far as fire sales go, I don't know what could be considered a fire sale at this point???

Marlins in a tough spot: If the American League East is baseball's best division, the National League East may be the game's most interesting. Every team has some level of intrigue associated with it as the Deadline approaches, and the Marlins are surely no exception.

Miami is in a difficult position: not looking anything like a contender, but heavily committed not only to this year's roster but to a new ballpark and building a fan base in what has been a challenging market. The Marlins are nine games out in the division. They're six out in the Wild Card race, tied for sixth place in the chase for those two spots. And most damning, they're three games under .500 with a grisly minus-61 run differential -- fifth worst in the Major Leagues, behind even the Cubs.

That adds up to a team that cannot, in good conscience, buy. Yet how can the Marlins sell, either? This was to be the team that brought baseball passion to Miami, a team that won in the inaugural year of Marlins Park and took South Florida by storm. Moving pieces just a few months after the splashy opening would be a difficult stance to take.

Yet Joe Frisaro reports that the Fish will at least consider moving some players, such as free agents-to-be Anibal Sanchez and Randy Choate, or perhaps new acquisition Carlos Lee. Frisaro asks the biggest question of all -- would the Marlins move Giancarlo Stanton? -- and answers it in about the only reasonable way. Sure, but only if they were absolutely blown away, and that's hard to imagine.

Fortunately, Frisaro is an idiot. There is no way we should move Stanton, unless we could get Bryce Harper or Mike Trout back.

I think everybody on the roster should be fair game except for Stanton and probably Ceschak. I'd trade Ceschak if it was the only way to complete a bigger deal but otherwise he's cheap, young, under club control for a few years, and effective.

All of your points are well thought and well said....But for me the bottom line is this.....The 2012 season is a complete bust the Marlins has no chance whatsoever to make the playoff so it has been the same thing for the last few years Loria and his goon squad were telling us well wait till we get the new park our fans will see a difference......Well we as fan saw a big difference ....New stadium new uniforms new name and the same team from last year that doesnt know how to win a ball game and most important a team that doesnt know how to be consistent..........Baseball is a long season and having 1 great month doesnt mean anyhting......

I wouldnt even take Harper back for Stanton

Nobody would give anything for guys like Buck, Bell, and i doubt they could get a lot for Hanley....Looks to me they are just going to have to keep spending and hopefully not strike out like they did with this past offseasons signings. Because i dont see that many tradable assets that would actually make this team better....

Cardinals fans last year said the same thing in July.

Fish dont got Pujols though

True. An just noting that the despair of some may be premature. Ps we are 5.5 out of wc now.

That is what we say every year, the wild card, we start the season off playing for the wc, it is getting old.

EVEN IF SOLANO HITS LIKE HANLEY, HE STILL IS WORTH A LOT MORE FOR HIS ENERGY AND ATTITUDE WHICH IS FANTASTIC, WHERE HANLEY'S ATTITUDE JUST S*U*CKS THE LIFE OUT OF THIS TEAM.

CANT STAND HAVING THAT RAT B*ASTARD ON THIS TEAM ANYMORE.....HE'S JUST A SBAD AS THE OTHER RAMIREZ....MANNY....ANOTHER TEMPERAMENTAL POS THAT HIS TEAMMATES CANT STOMACH.

I SAY TRADE HANLEY FOR A GOOD LOOKING BALL GIRL EVEN.....ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN HANLEY........

LOL....BELL SWEARS HE WORKS HARD AT GETTING IN SHAPE........WHAT A LAUGH RIOT THAT IS..........YEAH HE MAY GO THRU THE SPRINTS ETC ETC....BUT AT HOME HE EATS LIKE TEN FAT B*STARDS........HE COULD RUN AROUND THE WORLD TWICE AND STILL NOT BE FIT DUE TO HIS EATING HABITS.

DID THEY STEAL THE MIRRORS FROM HIS HOUSE OR WHAT....JUST TELL HIM TO TAKE A QUICK GLANCE AT HIS BELT SIZE...........

LIKE THE HONEYMOONERS ALICE KRAMDEN ONCE TOLD RALPH WHEN HE SAID SHE DIDNT KEEP UP WITH CURRENT EVENTS....HER ANSWER TO HIM WAS..... "OH YEAH....WHO LETS OUT YOUR PANTS EVERY WEEK!"

THAT LINE APPLIES TO BELL TOO.

iF THEY GOT RID OF MIKE STANTON (AND NOT TRADE HANLEY....OR GIVE HIM AWAY) THEN I SWEAR I WILL NEVER EVER ROOT FOR THIS TEAM AGAIN.....MIGUELS WAS AS BAD AS IT GETS......MIKE'S REMOVAL WOULD BE THE LAST STRAW!

Dude, relax. It's just baseball.

all those CAPS. hmmmm