Welcome to the Moose Lodge. The more the merrier.
I like your enthusiasm for Thames, and you led me to some research that yielded interesting results. By checking out his Average True Home Run Distance and Average Standard Home Run Distance on the Hit Tracker site and comparing last year's numbers with the previous year's, I discovered what's probably a graphic image of the power-suppressing nature of Safeco Field.
Last year, five of his nine HR left the yard at Safeco. His Average True Distance was 400.6 ft. and his Average Standard Distance was 399.4 ft.
In 2011, only one of his HR went out of at Safeco, and it was the shortest distance of all his HR's. His AVG True Distance was 408.9 ft. and his AVG Standard Distance was 406.8 ft.
The good news is, he was able to crush some bombs even at Safeco last year, driving the ball 426 and 424 feet. I imagine those went out in warm weather without a contrary breeze.
But I don't know where he stands, options-wise. I'd prefer not to lose him because of an outfield overcrowded with the likes of Ibanez and Bay. I hope we can hang onto him in Tacoma if there's no place for him with the big club, but somebody else will have to advise me of his status. Something tells me he's a guy being victimized by lack of opportunity and a bit of a rush to judgment.
Glad to have you with us. (btw, brother, love the Moose Lodge) I hope your enthusiasm carries through the season. I, too, like Eric Thames and I hope we can keep him in the majors. Those stats are looking pretty good for him.
See ya around, friend.
Thanks, plantier, but heck no -- I'm no kind of genius, statistical or otherwise. If I'm a stats geek, a billy goat's a gourmet. But I can get my mind around the simpler numbers, and it helps when the contrast is as simple and obvious as Eric's two samples of HR data.
I've begun to wonder if the main reason Z signed Bay was to flip him for prospects if he has a rebound year.
I think Morales has the edge to lead in HR because he had the fewest at-bats per home run last year. You might be surprised to learn that Smoak had the best AB/HR on the Mariners last year, then Saunders, Seager, and Montero, in that order. I'm expecting Ackley to show more power now that he's had the bone spurs taken out of his heel, but I don't see him leading in HR. Personally, I'd like to see Montero win that competition. Morales might be gone in a year, and hopefully Jesus will have a long future with our team. But I wouldn't be bummed if Smoak finally got it together, either.
I agree. I think we're going to see a power surge this year. I'm stoked.
Once put on a 40 man, players can be moved between the big club and the minors freely for three years of a players career. The definition of a year is being on the 40 man, and serving at least 20 days in the minors. In other words, if a player on the 40 man serves 19 days in the minors, the rest of the time in the bigs, that does NOT count as year. Rehabilitation assignments also do not count.
There are some unique conditions under which a fourth year is allowed, but that's a subject for another day.
Since Thames has played parts of only two seasons in the bigs (2011 and 2012), combined with significant time in the minors in those years, the Ms will be free to assign him to the minors in 2013 if they wish.
"But I don't know where he stands, options-wise."
He has one left.
Whoa. The entire AL, in 2012, had 15 players with 30+ HRs. Texas, NYY, Det, Bal had 2 each, the Halos had 3. Of this list, only the Halos missed the post season, with 89 wins.
Enthusiasm is great, but keep it real.
We might have 3 guys with 30 plus homeruns; with Morales, Morse, and Smoak.
I tend to be a little too optimistic with my M's...What I meant was that we have 3 guys with 30 hr POTENTIAL. Actually I think we have 5 guys with 30 hr POTENTIAL. Will it happen? not a chance. but the POTENTIAL is there.
Jesus MonteroMichael MorseKendrys MoralesJustin SmoakEric Thames
I think the M's have (6 or 7) 30 HR candidates-especially with bringing the fences in.....