How do you guys think the outfield is going to play out come opening day for our team? Like it, love it, or even hate it this is how I think it could play out. Keep in mind I'm not an expert regarding contractual commitments so that could play a role in this alignment. Nor am I a saber head so that will definitely not "jive" with you saber worshippers. I guess it's obvious I like hitting and will sacrifice some defense in return.I have to tell you I just don't feel Gutierrez will stay healthy while Bay will show Wedge more then enough to start him in left. Keep in mind that I'm also going into this trusting Jack Z on his statement that Carp is still in the plans for this club and is definitely in contention for a roster spot. Wells unfortunately is AAA bound along with Thames.
LF: BayCF: SaundersRF: Morse
Ibanez LF/DHCarp LF/1B
**NOTE: If Gutierrez stays healthy and plays like he did in Venzuela then things will be REALLY interesting.
We still need a catcher, and preferably more pitching.
Wells, Smoak, Carp, could all be on the move, certainly we don't have enough space for all of them.
I agree with you, they really want Bay on the team. Unless he really stinks in AZ, he's on the 25 man.
I think you've got it right: Morse, Guti, and Saunders.
As for those who seem to think Bay has a really good shot to play, I can only tell you I'm a Mets fan and have followed Jason's travails for two years. I can't imagine that all this faith in him comes from people with a real knowledge of his struggles. He hasn't been able to hit his weight for a long time. I mean, it was sad -- bad at-bat after bad at-bat, with only the rare glimmer that quickly faded back into a series of failures at the plate. He's shown almost nothing.
Heck, I'd love to see him resurrect his former self at the plate. But there's zero evidence that he can, and we'll only know if he has anything left when he picks up a bat in spring training. This is an extreme long shot, and Z knew it. It was worth taking, because the Mets are paying him $21M and the M's only had to toss in a chicken feed salary. If he's got something, it's a windfall. If not, no big loss to the franchise.
My lineup for opening day depends on who Starts opening day for Oakland (and there really isnt a clear cut #1 starter for the A's at this point)
This is Opening Day only
***IF Smoak starts the Season in AAA (not my preference, but He has to crush spring training to make the team)
NOTE: Bay and Wells both do not make the Team..... Bay's ST bat determines who wins spot on Roster-- vs LHPLF: Bay Or Wells (if Wells Makes Team, he moves to RF and Saunders to LF)CF: GutierrezRF: SaundersDH: Morse
-- vs RHPLF: SaundersCF: GutierrezRF MorseDH: Ibanez
If Smoak Makes the Team-- vs LHPLF: Saunders (Bay or Wells)CF: GutierrezRF: MorseDH Morales-- vs RHPLF: SaundersCF: GutierrezRF: MorseDH Morales/Ibanez
Only one question. Why should anyone's spring training stats determine anything? Let alone something as meaningful as a roster spot or potential start role?
edit: I guess that's two questions, technically...
I wouldn't say its ST stats, as in focusing on the printed stat sheet. Instead, it's ST performance, looking at specific instances and general characteristics. As in, does Bay look to be in very good physical condition, demonstrate good bat speed, an ability to handle a variety of pitches. How does he look when he's facing a pitcher who is actually gonna make a 25 man?
ST may not be highly meaningful, but it's not meaningless either.
2011 was an off-year for Jason Bay, but he was just as good or better than Casper Wells has ever looked (outside of Wells' 2010 partial season with Detroit - small sample size). Bay in 2012 had fractured ribs, then a concussion. Let's make sure when 2012 is evaluated, this is remembered.
Okay so let me refine my question for you.
How good does Jason Bay have to look in the small handful of meaningless warmup games that is spring training to convince you the last 3 years didn't just happen and that you want Jason Bay as a player on your team?