Great news for all Ichiro fans!
According to fangraphs, Ichiro's WAR is 1.5 up til today (June18) and it is equal to $6.9 million in value. Only 67 games has been played so far and he is on pace to reach 16.5 million dollars! His WAR is the third highest among all Mariners.
Surprisingly, Brendan Ryan is the 4th highest in the team at 1.0 and that is equal to $4.7 million. He is better than Ackley, Montero and Smoak so far this year according to WAR. He is on pace to produce what is worth $11.3 million.
I thought they've been dragging the team down this year. But WAR says they are among the best. Wow! Isn't that amazing?
LET'S GO ICHIRO! LET'S GO RYAN!

Let's go Ichiro-oh wait, he isn't playing today. I think Wells is in RF, you know, the guy involved in the worst trade in M's history. Go Casper!

Huh? A WAR of 1.0 is worth $4.7 million? I don't get it. If Ichiro has a WAR of 1.5, that is nothing to be excited about. Brendan Ryan's offense flat out $uck.s. A 1.0 ERA makes him a scrub.

The value portion of Fangraphs' WAR is based on the contracts that are given out and how many millions the league spends "per 1 win above replacement". In other words, if the players were making a combined $100 and were worth a combined 20 WAR, then teams would be spending $5 for every WAR. It isn't trying to say that player X has been worth Y dollars, just how much, in terms of WAR value, he's bringing to the team. The best use of that stat is to usually see how overpaid a player is or how much extra value you're getting from an underpaid player.

As the Ryan 1 WAR value points out, teams are spending right around $4.5 million for every WAR, so a player that puts up 5 WAR is giving a team approximately $22.5 million worth of value, regardless of what their paycheck is.

Yes Ryan and Ichiro have been struggling at the plate, but Brendan Ryan is the best defensive shortstop out there and that is where he is getting his value. Just imagine if he was hitting .250! he would be an allstar and teams would be clamoring for a trade.

"Brendan Ryan is the best defensive shortstop out there and that is where he is getting his value."

Depsite his BA which s*u&cks he has saved probably 20+ runs this season.

I know Ichiro is getting older and not as valuable as he used to be but I hope people realize that without Ichiro, the Mariners will basically go bankrupt. Expect more than 5,000 less per game and drastically decreased ratings and a huge plummet in revenue overall. He's basically the main reason the M's have been able to stay afloat and profitable for the last several years.

Which is exactly why you all know he'll be re-signed after this year. There's no way the FO is going to let Ich get his 3,000th hit elsewhere.

well, I sure hope he isn't planning on getting a raise.

I'm sure he's not arrogant enough to want to get paid another 15-18 million a year. I bet he'll be signed for something like 2-3 years for 8-10 mill/year which is fine considering the legend he is and he amount of revenue he brings in.

senior discount! 7$ mil over 2 years.

Personally I think we should graciously part ways at the end of the season. If he regresses again then it could easily turn into a bad contract and we can't afford that. He has been great but let's not kid ourselves into thinking that age wont catch up to him.

On another note we have Wells looking OK recently, it would be great for him to get some more playing time, if he could turn into a decent bat the Fister trade starts to take a differnt look. At worst Casper is a decent 4th OF'er, at best he could be a nice hitter that becomes another useful part in an improving lineup.

One who started this topic is gokiro, which is the mean name of Ichiro called by anti-Ichiro group. So please don't be deceived by gokiro. Gokiro apparently starts anti-Ichiro campagne again.

Ichiro himself is a modest person. If M's offer, he will accept whatever it is. And the team and whole MLB organization got and will get much more than they paid to him.

Bunch of Ichiro fanboys in this thread.

Let Ichiro go at the end of the season. Spend that "8-10 million" elsewhere.

If Ichiro, who'll be 39 entering next season, gets a 3 year extension, I'll puke.

Good news is, he'll get some rest at the AS break, since no way in he-ll is he going to KC.

That's bogus. Ichiblow and Ryan get all their value from defense. No one pays that much for defense on the open market, no matter how outstanding it is. That's why defense-first players makes so little compared to offensive players worth the same WAR. According to the Sabernerds, Ichiro's past two seasons have been a fluke, or something. Apparently 1.5 seasons is a "SSS".

I think you are the only one who got my point. My point was that WAR is bulls**t. The primary job of rightfielder is to hit for power. The rightfield is not defensively the most important position at all. No one would pay a rightfielder 17 million for his defense. If he is that good defensive player, he ought to be used in the later innings of the games. It's torturous to use an aging rightfielder who has the league worst OBP at .282 in the top of the lineup, except as a joke. Ichiro has been preoccupied with collecting singles. He is no longer safely hitting as he used to, but he is safely NOT taking a walk 36 games in a row except for an intentional walk. His OBP in this month is .219 and that is equal to his BA. He hasn't draw a single walk since he came back to the top of the lineup. It's time to bench him. Unlike his offense, his defense is still good, so he can be a good defensive replacement in the later innings.

"My point was that WAR is bulls**t. The primary job of rightfielder is to hit for power."

The primary job of any position player is to be valuable. Don't blame Ichiro because you're stuck with outdated notions of positional expectation.

A question.... if and I know it is a big if, Ichiro says look I am OK with a trade... What's his value?

I have to believe if we ate most of his contract there would be an OK market for hm. He is the type of guy that on the right stage would perform. Look at tonight, everyone is writing him off, it is time to hang it up, part ways etc. he turns around and has a great night. Personally if I am a GM making a run at the playoffs and he is available, I want him on my team….He has a temperament for performance on the big stage.

Haha, maybe that’s why I am not a GM

"if Ichiro says look I am OK with a trade... What's his value?"

*shrug*

Some of it will depend on the money he's owed for the rest of this season, no doubt. He's still got the "leadoff hitter" label, and if he starts showing a turnaround from his tough June (and today's 4 for 5 is a good start), someone will want him.

Why all the haters? Ichiro did great last night. I guess he can still hit for a senior citizen. I can think of some other dead weight to get rid of on our team.