The value portion of Fangraphs' WAR is based on the contracts that are given out and how many millions the league spends "per 1 win above replacement". In other words, if the players were making a combined $100 and were worth a combined 20 WAR, then teams would be spending $5 for every WAR. It isn't trying to say that player X has been worth Y dollars, just how much, in terms of WAR value, he's bringing to the team. The best use of that stat is to usually see how overpaid a player is or how much extra value you're getting from an underpaid player.
As the Ryan 1 WAR value points out, teams are spending right around $4.5 million for every WAR, so a player that puts up 5 WAR is giving a team approximately $22.5 million worth of value, regardless of what their paycheck is.
"Brendan Ryan is the best defensive shortstop out there and that is where he is getting his value."
Depsite his BA which s*u&cks he has saved probably 20+ runs this season.
I know Ichiro is getting older and not as valuable as he used to be but I hope people realize that without Ichiro, the Mariners will basically go bankrupt. Expect more than 5,000 less per game and drastically decreased ratings and a huge plummet in revenue overall. He's basically the main reason the M's have been able to stay afloat and profitable for the last several years.
Which is exactly why you all know he'll be re-signed after this year. There's no way the FO is going to let Ich get his 3,000th hit elsewhere.
Personally I think we should graciously part ways at the end of the season. If he regresses again then it could easily turn into a bad contract and we can't afford that. He has been great but let's not kid ourselves into thinking that age wont catch up to him.
On another note we have Wells looking OK recently, it would be great for him to get some more playing time, if he could turn into a decent bat the Fister trade starts to take a differnt look. At worst Casper is a decent 4th OF'er, at best he could be a nice hitter that becomes another useful part in an improving lineup.
One who started this topic is gokiro, which is the mean name of Ichiro called by anti-Ichiro group. So please don't be deceived by gokiro. Gokiro apparently starts anti-Ichiro campagne again.
Ichiro himself is a modest person. If M's offer, he will accept whatever it is. And the team and whole MLB organization got and will get much more than they paid to him.
Bunch of Ichiro fanboys in this thread.
Let Ichiro go at the end of the season. Spend that "8-10 million" elsewhere.
If Ichiro, who'll be 39 entering next season, gets a 3 year extension, I'll puke.
Good news is, he'll get some rest at the AS break, since no way in he-ll is he going to KC.
"My point was that WAR is bulls**t. The primary job of rightfielder is to hit for power."
The primary job of any position player is to be valuable. Don't blame Ichiro because you're stuck with outdated notions of positional expectation.
A question.... if and I know it is a big if, Ichiro says look I am OK with a trade... What's his value?
I have to believe if we ate most of his contract there would be an OK market for hm. He is the type of guy that on the right stage would perform. Look at tonight, everyone is writing him off, it is time to hang it up, part ways etc. he turns around and has a great night. Personally if I am a GM making a run at the playoffs and he is available, I want him on my team….He has a temperament for performance on the big stage.
Haha, maybe that’s why I am not a GM
"if Ichiro says look I am OK with a trade... What's his value?"
Some of it will depend on the money he's owed for the rest of this season, no doubt. He's still got the "leadoff hitter" label, and if he starts showing a turnaround from his tough June (and today's 4 for 5 is a good start), someone will want him.