I posted on another thread that I believe, like Loney, over the last 2 seasons we've seen the best Billshas and it's just not good enough for a supposed #2 starter. I also believe that he needs a change of scenery and he's the only piece of attractive trade bait we have this year. There will always be contending looking to add a veteran pitcher, especially a still young one. Maybe a package involving him and Loney would bring us a good hitting corner infielder.