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  • 8/5/12
  • hal137161

Internal documents from the Boy Scouts of America reveal more than 125 cases in which men suspected of molestation allegedly continued to abuse Scouts, despite a blacklist meant to protect boys from sexual predators.

A Los Angeles Times review (http://lat.ms/OT9zx5) of more than 1,200 files from 1970 to 1991 found suspected abusers regularly remained in the organization after officials were first presented with sexual misconduct allegations.

Predators moved from troop to troop because of clerical errors, computer glitches or the Scouts' failure to check the blacklist, known as the "perversion files," the newspaper said. In at least 50 cases, the Scouts expelled suspected abusers, only to discover they had re-entered the organization and were accused of molesting again.

In other cases, officials failed to document reports of abuse in the first place, letting offenders stay in the program until new allegations came to light, the Times reported.

One scoutmaster was expelled in 1970 for sexually assaulting a 14-year-old boy in Indiana. After being convicted of the crime, he went on to join two troops in Illinois between 1971 and 1988. He later admitted to molesting more than 100 boys, was convicted of the sexual assault of a Scout in 1989 and was sentenced to 100 years in prison, according to his file and court records.

In 1991, a Scout leader convicted of abusing a boy in Minnesota returned to his old troop shortly after getting out of jail.

In response to the Times' findings, the Scouts issued a statement that said in part:

"The Boy Scouts of America believes even a single instance of abuse is unacceptable, and we regret there have been times when the BSA's best efforts to protect children were insufficient. For that we are very sorry and extend our deepest sympathies to victims ... We are committed to the ongoing enhancement of our program, in line with evolving best practices for protecting youth."

The "perversion files" naming suspected child molesters include admissions of guilt as well as unproven allegations. They are used to vet applicants for volunteer and paid positions. The confidential documents have come to light in recent years in lawsuits by former Scouts, accusing the group of failing to detect abuses, exclude known pedophiles or turn in offenders to authorities.

Scouting officials say they've used the files to prevent hundreds of men who had been expelled for alleged sexual abuse from returning to the organization. The Boy Scouts have fought in court to keep the records from public view, saying confidentiality was needed to protect victims, witnesses and anyone falsely accused.

Many of the files will soon be made public as a result of an Oregon Supreme Court decision. The Associated Press, the New York Times, the Oregonian and other media outlets petitioned for the release of 1,247 files from 1965 to 1984 that had been admitted as sealed evidence in a 2010 lawsuit.

The Times analyzed a set of files that were submitted in a California court case in 1992. Their contents vary but often include biographical information on the accused, witness statements, police reports, parent complaints, news clippings, and correspondence between local Boy Scout officials and national headquarters, according to the newspaper.

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  • 8/6/12
  • windangit
I missed the part where the scouts think that molesters are "OK". They are more incompetent than they are accepting. It's a travesty that these molesters were allowed access to children for any reason.
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  • 8/6/12
  • sunnydoo

I missed the part where the scouts think that molesters are "OK".
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From his link-

"A Los Angeles Times review of more than 1,200 files dating from 1970 to 1991 found more than 125 cases across the country in which men allegedly continued to molest Scouts after the organization was first presented with detailed allegations of abusive behavior."

In short they either didnt act quick enough to prevent more abuse or covered it up just like the Catholic Church or Penn St did.

I am sorry but if someone comes to me in my organization and tells me that they have evidence on sexual harassment or abuse especially on a child- you immediately report it to the police and you remove that person from your organization pending an investigation. Why people think otherwise is a mystery.

There is time for due process which is what the investigation is for.

Edited 8/6/12   by  sunnydoo
Edited 8/6/12   by  sunnydoo
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  • 8/6/12
  • windangit
So that means they thought it was OK? Hardly.
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  • 8/6/12
  • santo4prez

Pedophiles are masters at infiltrating any organization that caters to kids.

However, that means such organizations need to be extra vigilant.

We are more aware of the problem now as a society than in the 70's and 80's.

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  • 8/6/12
  • hal137161

Just for emphasis, here are some key pieces to the cover-up.

"officials failed to document reports of abuse in the first place, letting offenders stay in the program until new allegations came to light, the Times reported." (GOT THAT???? Letting offenders stay in the program until new allegations came to light. So the first time they did it was OK.)

The "perversion files" naming suspected child molesters include admissions of guilt as well as unproven allegations. They are used to vet applicants for volunteer and paid positions. The confidential documents have come to light in recent years in lawsuits by former Scouts, accusing the group of failing to detect abuses, exclude known pedophiles or turn in offenders to authorities. (GOT THAT??? failing to turn in known offenders to the authotities)

The Boy Scouts have fought in court to keep the records from public view. (Yep, keep the dirty laundry hidden.)

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  • 8/6/12
  • windangit

The first one is suspect at best.

The second one is delusional.

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  • 8/6/12
  • hal137161

"We are more aware of the problem now as a society than in the 70's and 80's."

The only reason is because organizations like the Boy Scouts and the Catholic Church did a better job of hiding their dirty laundry from the public. The problems always existed.

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  • 8/6/12
  • windangit
No proof just speculation. I am not dating they are beyond reproach, but you have convicted then.
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  • 8/6/12
  • hal137161

"The first one is suspect at best. The second one is delusional."

Hey, don't let the facts get in the way Tommy.

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  • 8/6/12
  • hal137161

"No proof just speculation. I am not dating they are beyond reproach, but you have convicted then."

Once again, don't let the facts get in the way, Right?? They have already been convicted, and not just by me.

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  • 8/6/12
  • windangit
When you actually provide facts, let me know. This is speculation.
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  • 8/6/12
  • windangit
Really? In what court?
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  • 8/6/12
  • montalvus

**Pedophiles are masters at infiltrating any organization that caters to kids. **

And apparently, they also have hypnosis powers, since they are able to stay on the job for years, even after being caught (i.e Sandusky, Catholic priests). I figure they must be casting spells on officials.

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  • 8/6/12
  • hal137161

"Really? In what court? "

I guess you don't read the news. We already know about the Catholic Church. As for the Boy Scouts, it appears that you did not read the article. So here are some pertinent excerpts.

One scoutmaster was expelled in 1970 for sexually assaulting a 14-year-old boy in Indiana. After being convicted of the crime, he went on to join two troops in Illinois between 1971 and 1988. He later admitted to molesting more than 100 boys, was convicted of the sexual assault of a Scout in 1989 and was sentenced to 100 years in prison, according to his file and court records.

In 1991, a Scout leader convicted of abusing a boy in Minnesota returned to his old troop shortly after getting out of jail.

The "perversion files" naming suspected child molesters include admissions of guilt as well as unproven allegations. They are used to vet applicants for volunteer and paid positions. The confidential documents have come to light in recent years in lawsuits by former Scouts, accusing the group of failing to detect abuses, exclude known pedophiles or turn in offenders to authorities.

In addition, "The Boy Scouts have fought in court to keep the records from public view".

Many of the files will soon be made public as a result of an Oregon Supreme Court decision. The Associated Press, the New York Times, the Oregonian and other media outlets petitioned for the release of 1,247 files from 1965 to 1984 that had been admitted as sealed evidence in a 2010 lawsuit.

The Times analyzed a set of files that were submitted in a California court case in 1992. Their contents vary but often include biographical information on the accused, witness statements, police reports, parent complaints, news clippings, and correspondence between local Boy Scout officials and national headquarters, according to the newspaper.

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  • 8/6/12
  • hal137161
Really, for someone who I know was on the right side of the Paterno/Sandusky issue, I am surprised at your defense of the Boy Scouts. This is not speculation. Re-read the article.
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  • 8/6/12
  • windangit
So individuals were caught and prosecuted. I would think that would be good news.
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  • 8/6/12
  • montalvus
Hal's point is that despite their criminal records, they were still allowed into the organization.
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  • 8/6/12
  • windangit
If the Boy Scouts are culpable, I will be fine with vilifying them. We aren't there yet.
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