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    • 8/5 Dale's mismanagement list
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  • 8/5/12
  • BongNam

Let's list Dale's mismanagement in today's game. I'll go first.

He pulled Germano, who pitched like an ace, only after 77 pitches, without any reason.

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  • 8/5/12
  • windangit
Other than he was in a pitch count and had not pitched much recently.
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  • 8/5/12
  • chubbycub
Without any reason YOU know of. Germano was hardly an ace. Some balls to the OF were hit pretty hard. Why pitch a kid until he gets shelled and work backward from that?
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  • 8/5/12
  • BongNam
Only lazy flyballs mostly except the rbi double.
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  • 8/5/12
  • BongNam

Speaking of pitch counts,

Germano 77
Cabrera 18
Maine 17
Corpas 14
Russell 12
Camp 29

Dale pulled bullpen pitchers too quickly that he ran out of bullpen pitchers at the end of 8th inning and he had to stretch Camp to 2 innings. He had no idea what he was doing.

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  • 8/5/12
  • windangit
Germano was on a porch count and was probably gassed. I am sure that was Dales fault too.
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  • 8/5/12
  • chubbycub
Well, okay all right then. But argue the other part of what I said. Do you leave a kid in until he gets shelled and figure it's a character building session?
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  • 8/5/12
  • tehko
Didn't get to watch the game but it sounds like Dale didn't mismanage anything. We are fighting for the best possible draft pick. Dale's just doing his job.
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  • 8/5/12
  • BBUCK22
LOL
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  • 8/5/12
  • chubbycub
Yeh, the object now isn't to win games, it's to see what the kids can do. Wins are frosting on top of evaluations.
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  • 8/5/12
  • BongNam

"Well, okay all right then. But argue the other part of what I said. Do you leave a kid in until he gets shelled and figure it's a character building session?"

For a starter who has pitched only 77 pitches, yes definitely, it's his game because he had not been shelled at all.

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  • 8/5/12
  • sAN_cUB_fAN
give me a break. you're going to micromanage the team as it is right now? That's laughable.
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  • 8/5/12
  • BBUCK22
You must be smoking a bong lol
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  • 8/5/12
  • sunnydoo

I put this up in Garers thread on the subject. This is aimed at him and not necessarily anyone else-

This isnt the first time I have noticed it, but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

A managers job is to manage the team over the schedule, not necessarily an individual game. You cant just look at what you are doing in 1 game and pretend that everything else that has happened or that you are planning to happen doesnt matter. In short, you cant manage with blinders on which is what you are suggesting Sveum to do.

Germano this season has been up and down on his pitch counts with the Red Sox who were trying to limit him to 100. Germano also didnt pitch for a solid part of July because of the issue with his release/trade. The Cubs are slowly ramping him back up to 100 pitches in a game. You just cant throw someone to the wind and expect them to go from a period of relative inactivity to throwing 125 pitches in a game without causing arm damage.

5/30 90 pitches
6/5 67
6/10 108
6/15 76
6/20 87
6/25 103
6/30 105

Break

7/7 84

2 week break for waivers

7/21 43
7/30 65
8/5 77

I would really not like to tear his arm off at this point as he has done a good job for us in the short time he has been with us.

You should really think about stuff before you post. I know its "cool" to be critical of the Cubs and all for some of you, but there is an element of realism you are missing.

I would also suggest that when Garza gets fired back up here in a few days time that you miss watching that game on TV or on your computer. I would be shocked if they let him throw more than 75 also.

Edited 8/5/12   by  sunnydoo
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  • 8/5/12
  • BBUCK22
Good post Sunnydoo
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  • 8/5/12
  • chubbycub
jeez, man. It was a typo and he didn't proofread. jappens to ebryone
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  • 8/5/12
  • chubbycub
Good info for people who don't bother to research. (that would be me)
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