http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/former-climate-change-skeptic-now-says-global-warming-134617449.html

One of Koch's men now has said that Global Warming is a reality and is being sped up by man. A great deal of his funding is from arch conservatives such as the treasonous duo Koch brothers. Muller has put all of his research on the internet so that everyone can see it and talk about it. I bet he will be losing his funding over this.

Great post and we appreciate your time and information! I also like how you mentioned "traitors" as that is exactly right and applicable with the kock brothers and their allies. I hope that we will see more of that word "traitor" and not shy away from properly labeling US citizens.

Someone get the geezer his meds. He'll be OK.

I just read something that said that snow storms are way up. To me, it seems logical that snowstorms would be one thing that would intensify a lot because of global warming.

Maybe... just maybe ... the Koch Brothers will reverse course, and put this knowledge ahead of profits?

"I just read something that said that snow storms are way up. To me, it seems logical that snowstorms would be one thing that would intensify a lot because of global warming."

When the ocean overheats it makes the air more humid. More moisture in the air = more snow.

While it's winter one place, it's summer in another and dryer places will become dryer and wetter places will become wetter. I just think that this might lead to more snow, but I don't know much about how weather patterns move about.

But it never rains on the golf course...

Another article regarding the defection-

"Now, in a brand new study that probed the causes of that warming, the BEST team says it has cleared from blame the natural variations in Earth's climate that so often get implicated by skeptics. Muller and his colleagues implicate carbon dioxide emissions by humans as essentially the sole cause of global warming."

Pretty damning stuff from the guy who was the lead denier and voice to Limbaugh, et al all of these years.

http://news.yahoo.com/former-global-warming-skeptic-makes-total-turnaround-113037588.html

I guess he found someone that pays better than Koch.

I'm really not going to get involved with this, and I hesitate to even post, but this is the biggest problem I have with the claims:

"The effects of global warming on local weather patterns are unknown, and even as two-thirds of the world has heated up, another one-third has shown a gradual cooling over the past 250 years, he says."

We have no accurate records from 250 years ago. There were no weather stations on the oceans, and none in the arctic. Weather stations in Africa were in the teens for the entire continent. How are we going to analyze global climate data when we don't have accurate records from like 90% of the world?

Really we don't even have great information from 100 years ago. Over the last 70 years or so, we do have good statistcal data, and the warming is there, but not as great as the claims of the warming from 250 years ago or even 100 years ago. The warming that we do see over that time could be explained by higher solar output.

I am not arguing against the science, the consensus is that the warming is there and that it is man-made, but I don't trust people that talk about warming from 250 years ago, and I don't trust weather models that have been nothing but completely inaccurate.

The antarctic is growing....caused by humans. Got it.

what we know is that if storms intensify, it's man made global warming. If storms are reduced, it's man made global warming. If it's really hot, man made global warming. If it's unseasonably cool, it's man made global warming. Regardless of the weather, man made global warming is the culprit.

++what we know is that if storms intensify, it's man made global warming. If storms are reduced, it's man made global warming. If it's really hot, man made global warming. If it's unseasonably cool, it's man made global warming. Regardless of the weather, man made global warming is the culprit. ++

What? Nobody says this, except maybe idiots who say "thanks a lot, global warming" every time it is cold out.

well the warmers are populated with idiots.

i can find you scientists that disagree. I've just noted that when someone denies man made global warming it's because they're bought and paid for but when someone agrees with man made global warming it's because they're reputable scientists. Money makes people do all sorts of things. And it's been shown that scientists will alter their data to fit their political agenda.

So I gues he's giving all the money back to the Koch brothers, huh?

There is officially no scientific data that proves carbon emissions produced by the public are causing harm to the Earth’s climate. Further, Vahrenholt claims that Global Warming models relating to the Earth’s past climate are deeply flawed.

www.themeshreport.com/2012/06/global-warming-model-incorrect-leading-scientists-detracts-statements-that-humans-are-to-blame/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+The-Mesh-Report+%28The+Mesh+Report%29

"We have no accurate records from 250 years ago. There were no weather stations on the oceans, and none in the arctic. Weather stations in Africa were in the teens for the entire continent. How are we going to analyze global climate data when we don't have accurate records from like 90% of the world?"

We don't need to have been around 200 million years ago to know dinosaurs existed.

We didn't need to see the seed being planted 1000 years ago to figure out how old a giant redwood is.

Scientists are some pretty smart people, and just because no body was taking notes of daily high temperatures 250 years ago doesn't mean we have no way of figuring it out. Ice cores, fossil records, and the composition of geologic slices can all be used to help determine temperatures from centuries ago.